Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by whalesalad » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 3:59 AM UTC

Number Stations and Enigma Stations
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Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by dang » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 4:45 AM UTC

Gerät 32620: the machine that powered numerous number stations - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24342120 - Sept 2020 (66 comments)

Using KiwiSDRs to locate HF radio transmitters and numbers stations - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17414699 - June 2018 (9 comments)

There must have been more threads about these...

Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by 082349872349872 » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 4:53 AM UTC

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Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by bombcar » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 5:08 AM UTC

082349872349872 wrote: post #3

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Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by aliqot » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 5:16 AM UTC

082349872349872 wrote: post #3

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Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by geoffeg » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 5:18 AM UTC

I assume most numbers stations have disappeared in part due to the proliferation of global internet access. But I've kinda wondered, how does that work? One of the benefits of numbers stations is that it was nearly impossible to determine who was listening to a shortwave radio station. Any internet resource someone visits would be traceable by the government. Even with SSL nearly everywhere it's not nearly as anonymous as numbers stations were. I'm assuming most clandestine users see the ease of access and greater diversity in how messages can be sent over the internet as far outweighing the limitations of shortwave?

Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by djaouen » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 5:26 AM UTC

aliqot wrote: post #5

082349872349872 wrote: post #3

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Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by djaouen » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 5:26 AM UTC

bombcar wrote: post #4

082349872349872 wrote: post #3

6f 6e 65 20 69 66 20 62 79 20 6c 61 6e 64 2c 20 74 77 6f 20 69 66 2e 2e 2e

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Is this some kind of shibboleth? All I found was this article: http://sam.zoy.org/blog/2007-05-03-obligatory-r

Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by djaouen » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 5:30 AM UTC

djaouen wrote: post #8

bombcar wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Is this some kind of shibboleth? All I found was this article: http://sam.zoy.org/blog/2007-05-03-obligatory-r

I guess the key was to realize it wasn't utf-16 and to Google the original hex. Cool rabbit hole.

Re: Number Stations and Enigma Stations

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Post by roywiggins » Wed, Dec 21, 2022, 5:31 AM UTC

djaouen wrote: post #8

bombcar wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

09 F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B D8 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0

Is this some kind of shibboleth? All I found was this article: http://sam.zoy.org/blog/2007-05-03-obligatory-r

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controve...