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Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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I wonder if anyone is keeping score of the fines levied for all their f ckery. Hey, there is! https://violationtracker.goodjobsfirst.org/parent/wells-farg... Current Parent Company Name: Wells Fargo Penalty total since 2000: $22,081,458,643 Number of records: 229

I guess a tad over 1 year's worth of net income.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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Who went to jail for these crimes? People lost their houses and their transportation to work. I am all for a corporate death penalty.

Can't we just "put these issues behind us"? Sheesh.

There's a really interesting video from philosophy tube which touches on a lot of these topics, albiet throught the lense of trans health through the NIH. A lot of the research she discusses is very relevant though.

https://youtu.be/v1eWIshUzr8

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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Wells Fargo is the worst repeat offender in American consumer financial services. There should be serious discussions around withdrawing their banking license. It's incredibly difficult to get a banking license in this country, and it does not serve the public good to have this predatory institution operating under the aegis of the American government. Pull their license, let some new entrants into the market.

As Clark Howard has been saying forever:

“Wells Fargo is a criminal enterprise masquerading as a bank”

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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I don't mean to marginalize your frustration, but I feel like you may have unrealistic expectations. First, you have a tech industry salary, which is probably at least twice as much as the median wage, if not more. Not only is it white-collar work with practically no risk to your physical safety (assuming you exercise, eat right, etc), but monetarily this puts you _way_ ahead of most people right out of the gate. If…

> Since you asked for it, my advise is to live well under your means, save aggressively, set goals, and never stop learning. If you want to challenge yourself, look into a concept called "early retirement." Good luck. Ah yes, glamorizing the hustle. You'll surely make it if you just "work hard enough," wink wink. Working a 9-5 career is (and has been) a net negative ROI for at least 2 decades, if not more. To be comp…

If you think people ever "had it easy" you're mistaken.

The recent run up in housing prices is nothing new, it's happened at least twice before that during my life time.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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post #279

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> To be completely honest, this is why I'm on HN: doing your own startup is one of the few relatively low risk gambles one can take. This take is relatively…naive Most startups fail and you would be much better off “grinding LeetCode and working for a FAANG” (tm r/cscareerquestions). That’s just like people “starting their own business” and buying a franchise where their net profit is less than $70K a year and that’s…

I disagree on a number of levels, but especially because big tech valuations were propped up by QE over the past 10 years, Tesla being the poster child there. But Amazon, Google, etc. have all been impacted by macro elements. So that “TC” people brag about has been heavily subsidized by the FED. The irony of calling me naive when not even understanding macroeconomic effects is… something.

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Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean to marginalize your frustration, but I feel like you may have unrealistic expectations. First, you have a tech industry salary, which is probably at least twice as much as the median wage, if not more. Not only is it white-collar work with practically no risk to your physical safety (assuming you exercise, eat right, etc), but monetarily this puts you _way_ ahead of most people right out of the gate. If…

> First, you have a tech industry salary, which is probably at least twice as much as the median wage, if not more. This is exactly his point. If he can't make it with what he has going for him, who can? > You only options are to accept that and adjust your budget/income/location appropriately, or opt to rent forever, which is not at all a bad thing since owning a primary residence is never an investment. (Although t…

> This is exactly his point. If he can't make it with what he has going for him, who can?

Presumably they are living in a HCOL area, so definitely not indicative of life in America in general.

I know a few folks who live in the mid-west (typically derided as "fly over country") who have blue collar jobs making $70,000 who bought a house in their twenties.

You're not going to get too much sympathy from them when you're making 3-5x their salary and complain you can't afford a $1.5M single family home in the most expensive cities in the US.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

#357
Might be time to start a petition / gofundme campaign to withdraw their license? Not sure how that would work but I'm sure there are people who do and with some monetary support can shut down this massive corrupt bank forever as well as (hopefully) put some execs in jail.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> To be completely honest, this is why I'm on HN: doing your own startup is one of the few relatively low risk gambles one can take. This take is relatively…naive Most startups fail and you would be much better off “grinding LeetCode and working for a FAANG” (tm r/cscareerquestions). That’s just like people “starting their own business” and buying a franchise where their net profit is less than $70K a year and that’s…

I disagree on a number of levels, but especially because big tech valuations were propped up by QE over the past 10 years, Tesla being the poster child there. But Amazon, Google, etc. have all been impacted by macro elements. So that “TC” people brag about has been heavily subsidized by the FED. The irony of calling me naive when not even understanding macroeconomic effects is… something.

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Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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post #150

Wells Fargo is the worst repeat offender in American consumer financial services. There should be serious discussions around withdrawing their banking license. It's incredibly difficult to get a banking license in this country, and it does not serve the public good to have this predatory institution operating under the aegis of the American government. Pull their license, let some new entrants into the market.

I have been receiving emails from them about a phantom account. It seems legit, but I tried calling their official number to commandeer any accounts, they customer service rep tells me it doesn't exist.

Funny enough, about a decade ago, there was an actual account created that I was able to shutdown. Shady.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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After so many incidents with Wells Fargo, doesn't this point to something deeply ingrained in that company's culture? Such that even executives cannot change something about the system at the company that they have created? There must be some bad, little, everyday incentives permeating working at WF that causes the people there to produce these bad behaviors year after year. You can blame and change the execs, but th…

“Lord Coke gravely informs us that corporations cannot be excommunicated, because they have no souls, and they appear to be as destitute of every feeling as if they had also no bowels.... There is in truth but one point through which they are vulnerable, and that is the keyhole of the cash box.” - Hugo Grotius
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