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Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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So what's the least-evil bank that has a network of cash machines everywhere? (Yes, still need cash for certain things) Edit: also with a non-buggy mobile app? My credit union has the worst app. They don't seem capable of improving it... probably outsourced.

What about Discover? It's my main bank account. Only for checking (and a credit card I guess) so I can't speak as to their other banking services.

Their app is decent and works (so far) on a rooted LineageOS device.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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$30 a day is almost $1000 per month, that's completely unrealistic for 90+% of under 25s, most people don't hit that kind of saving power til they are 30. And I don't see any evidence in your post that previous generations did that? My parents certainly didn't, they started saving at 30 on teacher's salaries and bought a house three years later. That house (in Cambridge, UK) is now worth £800k, I can't afford that, d…

We are not talking about "90%+" here. This thread is in response to someone who "can't afford a house on a tech salary." Tech comp has been over 100K/year out of college for a while now, and even on somewhat less you should either be saving a ton or have much fat to trim in your expenditure.

OK well tech comp is very much not that high in the UK, so I guess we're not all in the same boat here. But the fact remains that things are objectively, numerically harder for us, and getting a lesson in life from those who had it easier is not very convincing.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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The idea that closing your oldest credit line immediately puts you out on the street penniless is a redditism that's been parroted too much. That old account closed in good standing will continue to support your credit score, and if you have another credit card that's been open for a few years, the score hit will be 10-15 points. You shouldn't feel like you're trapped with Wells forever.

Penniless, no. Dings your credit score, absolutely.

Assuming it’s in good standing when closing, it generally will fall off your credit score in 10 years.

That gives you 10 years to build up a credit history with other accounts.

I closed an ancient Bank of America account several years ago because I didn’t want to do business with them anymore. It still contributes to my credit score. By the time it falls off, the other accounts will more than make up for it.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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You’re not going to like my answer. I don’t like my answer. It’s never ending work. Always vote, run for office if you can, and/or become and stay engaged as a citizen activist. See something? Report it to regulators. Think something’s up? Go digging. Engage with other folks who are doing the same and provide logistical support if able to. I spend thousands of dollars a year on FOIA fees and attorney opinion and corr…

I think the answer I was expecting was that it's a two-step process: 1) Be lucky, and 2) Don't be unlucky. My next-door neighbor is actually a local politician, but her party affiliation is the one I dislike, so I'm getting a life-lesson in humility.

I’ve never been good at delivering bad news, my apologies.

Talk to your neighbor and explore a run for office if it interests you. Actually wanting to be engaged is the first step, and it sounds like you want to. No one is coming to save us, it’s just us.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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> First, you have a tech industry salary, which is probably at least twice as much as the median wage, if not more. This is exactly his point. If he can't make it with what he has going for him, who can? > You only options are to accept that and adjust your budget/income/location appropriately, or opt to rent forever, which is not at all a bad thing since owning a primary residence is never an investment. (Although t…

what about people that dont pay taxes i.e. every other chinese, saudi, indian, russian, EU and LATAM millionaire that owns several properties in miami, orlando, nyc, LA, dallas, houston, phoenix, etc. What about banks and REITs that are passthru entities for the same folk above ? What about SV out-of-staters that don't pay state taxes but work remote at places like LV, Salt Lake, or Boise ? You want to fleece your ow…

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Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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Wells Fargo is the worst repeat offender in American consumer financial services. There should be serious discussions around withdrawing their banking license. It's incredibly difficult to get a banking license in this country, and it does not serve the public good to have this predatory institution operating under the aegis of the American government. Pull their license, let some new entrants into the market.

Whenever I read these stories I think of equifax. I’m sure that settlement check will be here any day /s

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> Since you asked for it, my advise is to live well under your means, save aggressively, set goals, and never stop learning. If you want to challenge yourself, look into a concept called "early retirement." Good luck. Ah yes, glamorizing the hustle. You'll surely make it if you just "work hard enough," wink wink. Working a 9-5 career is (and has been) a net negative ROI for at least 2 decades, if not more. To be comp…

> [...] doing your own startup is one of the few relatively low risk gambles one can take. I was under the impression that around 90% of startups failed. Was I mistaken, have the numbers changed, or do we just have very different thresholds for "low risk"?

If done right, such a failure only impacts the investors, and anyone who took stock instead of a proper wage. The savvy founder pays themselves a salary high enough that they are totally in the black long before the bank arrives to repo the furniture.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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> First, you have a tech industry salary, which is probably at least twice as much as the median wage, if not more. This is exactly his point. If he can't make it with what he has going for him, who can? > You only options are to accept that and adjust your budget/income/location appropriately, or opt to rent forever, which is not at all a bad thing since owning a primary residence is never an investment. (Although t…

what about people that dont pay taxes i.e. every other chinese, saudi, indian, russian, EU and LATAM millionaire that owns several properties in miami, orlando, nyc, LA, dallas, houston, phoenix, etc. What about banks and REITs that are passthru entities for the same folk above ? What about SV out-of-staters that don't pay state taxes but work remote at places like LV, Salt Lake, or Boise ? You want to fleece your ow…

That’s a lot of whatabouts. I’m not sure why you’re attacking the previous poster who obviously wants people to be taxed.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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I had a Wells Fargo account in college and closed it a few years ago when I saw they had opened fake accounts and charged their customers a bunch of fees.

It didn’t happen to me, but I will never trust an institution that treats customers this way.

Shocking to me that people would use a bank like this.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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> I get what you mean, but what's the alternative? How should you behave if you're exempt from normal social boundaries because of your personal tragedy? Shout at random people? Throw things? Punch some guy in the face? I don't mean to put words in obblekk's mouth (text box) so what I perceived them as meaning is: I don't think the person you're replying to was advocating for direct person-on-person action. When we s…

> To me, it's like when people complain that "those damn unionized trash truck drivers are making $90,000 with a lot of overtime and a pension." Why is the response to try to tear them down, when the correct, to my mind, question is "why don't I have that, too? Because if total salary income were uniformly distributed across the population, the average would be like $80,000 a year.

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