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Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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I can’t even afford a home right now on a tech salary with sky high rent paying off my landlords 2% refi’d mortgage and student loans making it impossible at 6-7% fed interest rate hikes and inflated home prices after the insane COVID housing price bubble increase. I feel like life won’t start for another 5+ years for people like me, unless we gamble on being underwater on an inflated mortgage entering at the peak of…

Same here. I wasn't financially prepared to buy a house at insanely inflated Covid prices while interest rates were down in the 2% range, and I'm not excited to to buy a house at 7% while prices are still substantially higher than pre-Covid levels. Meanwhile rentals for anything other than a tiny box are just as expensive as a mortgage at those rates. I don't understand how people who do not have 6-figure tech salari…

I wish people would stop referring to 'pre-Covid levels'. We're never going back to that. At this point, it's been years. The government inflated away everyone's wealth & debt, what we got was rampant inflation. There is no 'undo' button on this.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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I used to be a Wells Fargo customer, just before all the news of shady "operating practices". One day I was trying to login to their online banking web site, but my password wasn't working and the reset functionality also wasn't working. I called their customer support, and the rep told me to make sure I was using the correct password. She then read my password to me. Later that day I drove to the branch and closed my account. I've been with my local credit union ever since.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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post #189

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I'm sorry but if one thing America should have learned over the last six years is that the two parties are nothing alike, equating them as the same and making a poor faith effort that voting is useless is extremely moronic.

Neither party is willing to solve homelessness by actually fucking housing people , and you're calling a homeless person a moron because their assessment of the two parties which, to avoid disturbing the existing economic order, mutually assent to that permanent state of crisis , doesn't include enough conciliatory language for you about how Orange Man Bad? Jesus Christ.

So to be clear, you are saying my tax money should be used to house the homeless, at exorbitant rates, while I cannot afford to buy house myself.

I don't agree with this. I don't think homelessness can be solved by building more housing. Not sure if you have lived near homeless encampments before. If you know you know.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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post #139

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I can’t even afford a home right now on a tech salary with sky high rent paying off my landlords 2% refi’d mortgage and student loans making it impossible at 6-7% fed interest rate hikes and inflated home prices after the insane COVID housing price bubble increase. I feel like life won’t start for another 5+ years for people like me, unless we gamble on being underwater on an inflated mortgage entering at the peak of…

I don't mean to marginalize your frustration, but I feel like you may have unrealistic expectations. First, you have a tech industry salary, which is probably at least twice as much as the median wage, if not more. Not only is it white-collar work with practically no risk to your physical safety (assuming you exercise, eat right, etc), but monetarily this puts you _way_ ahead of most people right out of the gate. If…

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Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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post #150

Wells Fargo is the worst repeat offender in American consumer financial services. There should be serious discussions around withdrawing their banking license. It's incredibly difficult to get a banking license in this country, and it does not serve the public good to have this predatory institution operating under the aegis of the American government. Pull their license, let some new entrants into the market.

Who went to jail for these crimes? People lost their houses and their transportation to work. I am all for a corporate death penalty.

Can't we just "put these issues behind us"? Sheesh.

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post #198

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I don't mean to marginalize your frustration, but I feel like you may have unrealistic expectations. First, you have a tech industry salary, which is probably at least twice as much as the median wage, if not more. Not only is it white-collar work with practically no risk to your physical safety (assuming you exercise, eat right, etc), but monetarily this puts you _way_ ahead of most people right out of the gate. If…

> Since you asked for it, my advise is to live well under your means, save aggressively, set goals, and never stop learning. If you want to challenge yourself, look into a concept called "early retirement." Good luck. Ah yes, glamorizing the hustle. You'll surely make it if you just "work hard enough," wink wink. Working a 9-5 career is (and has been) a net negative ROI for at least 2 decades, if not more. To be comp…

> [...] doing your own startup is one of the few relatively low risk gambles one can take.

I was under the impression that around 90% of startups failed. Was I mistaken, have the numbers changed, or do we just have very different thresholds for "low risk"?

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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post #31

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I agree 100%; what can a layman like me do to fix it?

If possible, leave USA. There are political systems around the world that aren’t broken and there are some that are actually being fixed by voters (e.g. Australia). But USA is broken for at least our lifetimes. You only live once.

The reason those other places around the world aren’t broken* is because people had the mentality of putting in hard work toward the future. If everyone shared what you thought and fled at a moment of hardship, the whole world would go to shit really fast.

*your opinion, not mine. I don’t think USA is that bad of a place and I don’t put Australia on a pedestal.

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post #198

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> Since you asked for it, my advise is to live well under your means, save aggressively, set goals, and never stop learning. If you want to challenge yourself, look into a concept called "early retirement." Good luck. Ah yes, glamorizing the hustle. You'll surely make it if you just "work hard enough," wink wink. Working a 9-5 career is (and has been) a net negative ROI for at least 2 decades, if not more. To be comp…

> [...] doing your own startup is one of the few relatively low risk gambles one can take. I was under the impression that around 90% of startups failed. Was I mistaken, have the numbers changed, or do we just have very different thresholds for "low risk"?

High failure rate ≠ high risk. Everything with a high upside will have a high failure rate, but working 10 hours on your own startup a week is definitely lower risk than gambling with options (which is what /r/wallstreetbets is doing) or gambling with crypto (even higher risk).

I know people that made low 7 figures last year flipping NFTs, but the risk profile (to me, at least) was untenable. At least in Vegas you get free drinks.

Re: Wells Fargo to pay $3.7B for mistreating customers

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I feel so much cognitive dissonance realizing that there are hard working people literally losing their home and shelter wrongly while I might be sitting across from them at any time, expecting them to behave within normal social boundaries. Imagine a family with a new born, working 50+ hours at a physically demanding job, making $80k/yr combined, and then losing their home for no reason... and then being expected to…

I get what you mean, but what's the alternative? How should you behave if you're exempt from normal social boundaries because of your personal tragedy? Shout at random people? Throw things? Punch some guy in the face? Seems to me it's better to try and be kind, and treat others right despite your horrible situation. The person you're treating cruelly because of your personal trauma could easily be going through a tra…

My understanding was that the GP wasn't saying that people should commit violence in the face of such a severe personal and institutional tragedy, but that we have this idea that people in tough enough situations reach a point where they're no longer in a place to act rationally. The surprise is that more people don't snap.
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