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Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

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Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

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post #20

In theory, (most) botnet operators can’t afford $8/month/bot; so this seems like a reasonable strategy from that point of view

The last vote had 17 mil votes. If I were Russia or China, I would gladly pay 150 mil if I could steer Twitter into a direction I want.

if all results are within say 10% of each other, your botnet just needs to make up the dif. So it would really just cost a fraction of that.

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#42

In theory, (most) botnet operators can’t afford $8/month/bot; so this seems like a reasonable strategy from that point of view

In theory, yes, but it's known that these gangs who do platform manipulation somehow acquire SIM cards in bulk to register accounts en masse . And that costs money.

> platform manipulation somehow acquire SIM cards in bulk to register accounts en masse

You think teleoperators would deny such a request from the sitting government in their country?

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#43

Musk could've easily accomplished all of his goals if he could just be more selective about what he says. Should've never mentioned anything about "absolutist" or "wokeism." Could've made all the same decisions (like trimming half the company, introducing "Blue", polling about re-admitting ex-presidents) and would now be in a totally different, much better position. When he speaks, he closes doors and creates surface…

Hell, he could probably chat about it w/ chatGPT before making a decision and make the better call just for having played the idea off an 'equal' (last part tongue in cheek).

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#44
This is the way it should be. People need to have skin in the game and this is in line with my suggestion on how Twitter can solve both its revenue problem and its content moderation problem all at once.

The idea is to auction off the rights to ban/allow controversial users. Twitter collects money for selling this right and the people that feel the strongest about whether or not someone’s speech should be allow on the platform can have a direct say in that decision—all they have to do is put their money where their mouth is. If they don’t, then it’s obviously not worth it to them to have someone be banned or allowed on Twitter.

Let the free market sort out what speech is acceptable. It’s dynamic and is a better representation of what society actually wants at any given time compared to any other system.

Elon should embrace this especially as he just found out that the government was doing exactly this by paying Twitter to censor people. Why not just open it up to everyone?

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#45
post #2

This is perfectly legal, and OK with me, but many will perceive it as "democracy for those who can pay."

They'll perceive it that way because that's how it is. There's no need to muddy the waters with "many will perceive it[...]" when the reality is that in order to participate in the vote you have to pay money.

But is that actually bad? Don’t we want the people making decisions to have skin in the game? People use money everyday to express their preferences, why shouldn’t we use it here?

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#46
post #17

Not sure the best idea, but it's the same in the stock market - only shareholders can vote.

the stock market has never made any anti-consumer choices using this system

And those that made bad choices that the market doesn’t agree with are punished accordingly, by losing their money and thus influence in future decisions

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#47

Musk could've easily accomplished all of his goals if he could just be more selective about what he says. Should've never mentioned anything about "absolutist" or "wokeism." Could've made all the same decisions (like trimming half the company, introducing "Blue", polling about re-admitting ex-presidents) and would now be in a totally different, much better position. When he speaks, he closes doors and creates surface…

I'm always fascinated by these kinds of mistakes and was pleased to learn the term "unforced error" to describe them.

All he had to do was nothing.

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

#48

Musk could've easily accomplished all of his goals if he could just be more selective about what he says. Should've never mentioned anything about "absolutist" or "wokeism." Could've made all the same decisions (like trimming half the company, introducing "Blue", polling about re-admitting ex-presidents) and would now be in a totally different, much better position. When he speaks, he closes doors and creates surface…

"Smile more, talk less"? :)

Re: Blue subscribers should be the only ones that can vote in policy related polls

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The last vote had 17 mil votes. If I were Russia or China, I would gladly pay 150 mil if I could steer Twitter into a direction I want.

if all results are within say 10% of each other, your botnet just needs to make up the dif. So it would really just cost a fraction of that.

Would be even cheaper because there’d be so few Twitter blue users, so you’d only need to account for the delta amongst that small subset of the current user base
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