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Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

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POLL: Should I step down as head of Pinboard? I will abide by the results of this poll.

Getting bored with your creation is completely understandable, but why not sell it? Or give it away? Or even gracefully shut it down, so that people know where to stand?

I must say, your current attitude is a little bit sad and disappointing.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

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post #55

It's hard for me to fathom why people continue to pay for a service, whose founder time and time again shown that providing a good service is least of his priority. It took me four emails and two DMs just for him to acknowledge that there was a problem back in 2019. I understand virtue of simplicity, but how much can it hurt to just make the site responsive or just fix the fucking bookmarklet so it doesn't take multi…

I don't think most people factor the founder into their buying decisions at all

Maybe not, but it's definitely relevant if the founder is the only employee.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

#64
This post pretty much encapsulates the problem with consumer Saas as a business model.

If you’re charging $1-2/month, you need thousands of paying customers to make it a worthwhile endeavor (vs just working for someone else).

With thousands of paid users, support requests are going to come in pretty much daily—-and you’ll be amazed how many people think you should be on-call 24/7 to provide support for them even if they’re only paying you $2!

Then the bad reviews start piling up, the codebase gets stale, competitors starting biting at your heels, your motivation wanes, etc.

The market developed the way it did for a reason. Google of the early 2000s wasn’t stupid. Consumers value their time at zero and don’t want to pay for anything, so they get invasive ads, trackers, and robot support.

Businesses value their time appropriately, so that’s why there’s still a robust paid B2B Saas market.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

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POLL: Should I step down as head of Pinboard? I will abide by the results of this poll.

This isn't even slightly funny. I know several people who your neglectful ownership has caused a lot of trouble, on top of you ghosting them, and I've had to take to actively warning people away from Pinboard - even as you raise your prices with the promise of fixing Pinboard's rot. [NARRATOR: "He did not keep his promise."] If you are burntout and emotionally aversive to doing anything about it, well, it happens to the best of us, but at least have the personal maturity to acknowledge that you have moved on, and put someone else who gives a damn in charge (or sell it). You're doing the same dog-in-the-manger thing to Pinboard you criticized others like Delicious for doing.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

#66
post #38

Anybox [1] is a great replacement if you are in the Apple ecosystem. Raindrop [2] is another alternative that a lot of people seem to enjoy. I tried many alternatives to Pinboard and like AnyBox best so far. [1] https://anybox.app/ [2] https://raindrop.io/

Thanks for this. If importing works I’ll try out AnyBox.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

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post #65

POLL: Should I step down as head of Pinboard? I will abide by the results of this poll.

This isn't even slightly funny. I know several people who your neglectful ownership has caused a lot of trouble, on top of you ghosting them, and I've had to take to actively warning people away from Pinboard - even as you raise your prices with the promise of fixing Pinboard's rot. [NARRATOR: "He did not keep his promise."] If you are burntout and emotionally aversive to doing anything about it, well, it happens to…

As predicted, he responded with his usual snark implying what recourse do you (the customer) have? And last time I mentioned the website being in shambles, he contested that claim. He is not traveling in a place without internet: he reads every comment that is posted about him or pinboard here.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

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post #65

POLL: Should I step down as head of Pinboard? I will abide by the results of this poll.

This isn't even slightly funny. I know several people who your neglectful ownership has caused a lot of trouble, on top of you ghosting them, and I've had to take to actively warning people away from Pinboard - even as you raise your prices with the promise of fixing Pinboard's rot. [NARRATOR: "He did not keep his promise."] If you are burntout and emotionally aversive to doing anything about it, well, it happens to…

Although you have to admit that we are in a timeline where "funny" has taken on a dramatically different meaning. And since some of the largest corps out there (Google) are not doing any better, I'd feel bad blaming the one single guy who's honestly trying.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This isn't even slightly funny. I know several people who your neglectful ownership has caused a lot of trouble, on top of you ghosting them, and I've had to take to actively warning people away from Pinboard - even as you raise your prices with the promise of fixing Pinboard's rot. [NARRATOR: "He did not keep his promise."] If you are burntout and emotionally aversive to doing anything about it, well, it happens to…

Although you have to admit that we are in a timeline where "funny" has taken on a dramatically different meaning. And since some of the largest corps out there (Google) are not doing any better, I'd feel bad blaming the one single guy who's honestly trying.

> I'd feel bad blaming the one single guy who's honestly trying.

The point here is that he's not honestly trying; he's neither of those words.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to Pinboard (Dec '22 edition)?

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post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although you have to admit that we are in a timeline where "funny" has taken on a dramatically different meaning. And since some of the largest corps out there (Google) are not doing any better, I'd feel bad blaming the one single guy who's honestly trying.

> I'd feel bad blaming the one single guy who's honestly trying. The point here is that he's not honestly trying; he's neither of those words.

In this year, my base assumption is that everyone's trying, even if it's just trying not to psychologically decompose.
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