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Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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I reject the notion that anyone hearing or reading a word from this list could possibly experience anything properly categorized as "harm". This is what's known in the sports world as "flopping" - feigning an injury to elicit a penalty on the other team. Except academia has taken it even further. You don't even need to pretend that you're the one injured. You can make up an imaginary person and pretend they are injur…

You're basically positing that words have no possible effect and anyone actually hurt by words is just pretending. Sure, we're not expecting every single word on these lists to have any random person go cry in the corner, but those are pretty long lists and I could totally see specific people getting hit at the right angle and be affected enough to warrant consideration.

Sorry, but I believe that nobody is actively harmed by using master slave terminology in computer science. If you are, that‘s a „you“ problem.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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> Unintentionally perpetuates that disability is somehow abnormal or negative, furthering an ableist culture.

I have a physical disability and several mental conditions that are considered disabling and I'm here to tell you they're all both abnormal and negative!

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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post #555

I reject the notion that anyone hearing or reading a word from this list could possibly experience anything properly categorized as "harm". This is what's known in the sports world as "flopping" - feigning an injury to elicit a penalty on the other team. Except academia has taken it even further. You don't even need to pretend that you're the one injured. You can make up an imaginary person and pretend they are injur…

You're basically positing that words have no possible effect and anyone actually hurt by words is just pretending. Sure, we're not expecting every single word on these lists to have any random person go cry in the corner, but those are pretty long lists and I could totally see specific people getting hit at the right angle and be affected enough to warrant consideration.

> I could totally see specific people getting hit at the right angle and be affected enough to warrant consideration

The question is, will they be affected by word itself or the composition of words? Because I can probably make an offensive sentence using most of the words in this list (except tarball, I'm not that creative). But I can also do the same avoiding words from the list and still hurt specific people. So having this list doesn't solve the problem, but it can be used to harm people. You don't like some argument, lets check if we can find a harmful word in it and use that!

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