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Post by alvah »

xcrunner529 wrote: post #717
alvah wrote: post #716

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Do I have any evidence? What, are you a policeman? If you truly believe it was just about dick pics, let’s sort out a price for that bridge. NFI why you’re on about election fraud, you’ll have to show me where I made any claims about that.

I’ve found anyone that uses the “bridge to sell you” line doesn’t have any actual evidence for what they believe except it “feels right”.

Good for you. I haven’t seen any evidence for the “it was only dick pics, definitely nothing else” theory, I assume you have some?

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Post by trashtester »

bb88 wrote: post #712
trashtester wrote: post #657

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The hard right, and their conspiracy theories about Pizzagate, Voting Machines, Mail-in Balloting and Fake school shootings are crazy and disgraceful, in my opinion. And I lost any respect I might have had for Trump after the aftermath of the 2020 election. But I'm equally disapproving of the left in their handling of the 2016 election and its aftermath, and the way they represented it as "stolen", as well as their n…

> That way, one can hope, it may be possible to separate facts from matters of opinion from outrights falsehoods. Jan. 6th was a based on a series of falsehoods. Fox News and several Republican politicians claimed it was a antifa "False Flag" operation the night after it happened. Fox News downplayed much of the Trump scandals in his presidency. So now turnabout is fair play I guess with the coverage of whatever's on…

> So we need to restore Trump to the presidency, suspend the constitution, or whatever the right wing demands or there will be violence?

Not what I'm saying at all, rather the opposite. But if both sides stop interpreting everything coming frome moderates on the other side in the worst possible light, that's a start in mitigating polarization.

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Post by ssnistfajen »

BulgarianIdiot wrote: post #709
ssnistfajen wrote: post #707

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Has he ever stated anywhere that his long term vision is a "general computing platform"? Because mega-apps are not that. There has been zero building happening or even hinted at towards his everything app vision while he is wrecking everything at Twitter.

He has compared Twitter to a neural network where we (and bots) are the nodes. I feel this was him mostly trying to sound fancy, but in my mind I'm absolutely gonna grab this and run with it. Mega-app, the way I understand that term, is not what he's after. He's mentioned that he wants to allow HQ video and compete with YouTube and have a separate app which shows a YouTube-like view of only tweets with videos on them…

Let's agree to disagree here because we are clearly not talking about the same things at all. I suggest reading up on what Chinese mega apps look like and Musk's personal comments that referred to WeChat. Adding longform video is exactly part of a conventional mega-app and it is absolutely not revolutionary whatsoever.

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Post by LawTalkingGuy »

xcrunner529 wrote: post #718
LawTalkingGuy wrote: post #702

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They conspired to hide a leak that they thought would tip the election. Not that the leak was only dick pics, but if dick pics were enough to tip the election wouldn't that still be a valid expression of voter will? > I assume you’re very mad at Russia too? But, but, whatabout the other guys! No, because I don't have a reason to trust Putin or the Russians, and neither do US citizens. But they do have a reason, and a…

The “twitter files” links has the Biden campaign reporting dick pics. We can actually view the links mentioned via the Internet Archive. Oops. And no they don’t have a right for something illegal (revenge porn, unconcent) and the company certainly has their own right to censor how they want and choose who they listen to. The Russian thing was about the actual facts about Russia’s involvement in the 2016 election and…

Twitter blocked the NYPost and any DMs containing links to the article based on the set of advice you summarize as "reporting links to dick pics".

The emails are probably the most politically relevant, and possibly damaging, as they contain possible evidence of corrupt dealing.

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Post by Nextgrid »

blacklight wrote: post #654
Nextgrid wrote: post #589

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Totally agreed about BlueSky and all the crypto-related nonsense needing to go, but thinking that ActivityPub is the future is as naive as thinking the Linux desktop is the future. There are significant technical, scalability and user experience challenges with ActivityPub-based systems that people refuse to acknowledge and address. Some of those challenges may not even have a good solution - turns out there are also…

I agree on the user experience challenges - although I don't think they are more insurmountable than several of the technical decisions taken by Twitter. On the technical and scalability side, what challenges do you see? I personally see a distributed system of instances as something much more scalable than a centralized platform.

See my comments on https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34052083.

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Post by mcv »

PaulRobinson wrote: post #708
mcv wrote: post #649

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I've never been and still am not a big Washington Post reader, but I have seen a lot of very pro-billionaire headlines from the Washington Post. I can't help but wonder if Bezos might be directly or indirectly a factor in that. Murdoch is of course well known for using his media empire to promote his own political interests. His British tabloids were ridiculously strongly pro-Brexit because Murdoch was a respected gu…

How do you explain The Times being vehemently Remain?

Good question! I had to look this up, but apparently The Times had legally protected editorial independence as part of the deal that allowed Murdoch to buy it. Unfortunately, that independence ended last January:

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2021/jun/24/rupert-murdoc...

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/feb/10/ban-on-rupert-...

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Post by themitigating »

alvah wrote: post #721
xcrunner529 wrote: post #717

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I’ve found anyone that uses the “bridge to sell you” line doesn’t have any actual evidence for what they believe except it “feels right”.

Good for you. I haven’t seen any evidence for the “it was only dick pics, definitely nothing else” theory, I assume you have some?

So you want evidence to prove something didn't happen? How are you on Hackernews?

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Post by BulgarianIdiot »

ssnistfajen wrote: post #723
BulgarianIdiot wrote: post #709

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He has compared Twitter to a neural network where we (and bots) are the nodes. I feel this was him mostly trying to sound fancy, but in my mind I'm absolutely gonna grab this and run with it. Mega-app, the way I understand that term, is not what he's after. He's mentioned that he wants to allow HQ video and compete with YouTube and have a separate app which shows a YouTube-like view of only tweets with videos on them…

Let's agree to disagree here because we are clearly not talking about the same things at all. I suggest reading up on what Chinese mega apps look like and Musk's personal comments that referred to WeChat. Adding longform video is exactly part of a conventional mega-app and it is absolutely not revolutionary whatsoever.

Sorry I said WhatsApp above when I meant WeChat. Video alone is not revolutionary, nor are payments. We don't disagree that much.

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Post by andrepd »

jasode wrote: post #226

It's instructive to contrast what other billionaires did with media properties they owned: - Jeff Bezos personally bought Washington Post but he left it alone and let the editors run it. What Jeff did do was invest some money into the IT department to modernize the workflow tools (metrics dashboards, etc) for journalists. He stayed out of the decisions of what stories get run on the front page. - Rupert Murdoch owns…

"Rupert Murdoch doesn't interfere in the editorial stance of the media he owns" is the most outlandish thing I've read in quite a long time.
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