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What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by Semaphor »

wintorez wrote: post #168

Never understood the quest for immortality. We are the children of our time. When our time passes, we will live as strangers in a strange land, drowning in the sea of nostalgia. Death will simply takes us back to where we came from before our birth. Don’t fear the reaper.

> Never understood the quest for immortality.

Me neither, it sounds like a punishment.

> We are the children of our time. When our time passes, we will live as strangers in a strange land, drowning in the sea of nostalgia.

Now here, I disagree. If someone offered me to become displaced in time, being frozen most of the time, but waking up for a few months or a year (assuming I’d not be pennyless on the street) every decade or century, I’d love it until I tire and either retire in the "now" or end my life.

I love that my life will eventually end, I hate that I won’t be able to see everything to come.

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Post by adastra22 »

ausbah wrote: post #199
adastra22 wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to be immortal. If I ever tire of existence and achieve terminal boredom, I'll just use technology to forget (temporarily or permanently) some memories and experience them again anew. I'll see you all at the heat death of the universe.

semi relevant user name ironically

Not at all ironic or accidental.

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Post by sts153 »

wintorez wrote: post #168

Never understood the quest for immortality. We are the children of our time. When our time passes, we will live as strangers in a strange land, drowning in the sea of nostalgia. Death will simply takes us back to where we came from before our birth. Don’t fear the reaper.

Simple, but wonderful words.

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Post by adastra22 »

terminal_d wrote: post #203
adastra22 wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to be immortal. If I ever tire of existence and achieve terminal boredom, I'll just use technology to forget (temporarily or permanently) some memories and experience them again anew. I'll see you all at the heat death of the universe.

If you like that premise, you'd like to read "The Golden Age" by John C. Wright. It's hard scifi.

Thanks!

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Post by stanete »

beebeepka wrote: post #19
cultureulterior wrote: post #13

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I don't agree, and you shouldn't force those of us who don't agree to die.

You'd have someone else wipe your ass rather than embrace death? How dignified.

The point of drug discovery to slow down or stop aging is not to keep people in that frail state of life for as long as possible. Instead is to keep people in their 30s for as long as possible. Most research out there is trying to solve aging, not death.

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Post by Eliezer »

UberFly wrote: post #234

I wanted to know the state of Ted William's head, so I did a search. This is what I found: In "Frozen," Larry Johnson, a former executive at the Alcor Life Extension Foundation in Scottsdale, Ariz., writes that Williams' head was abused at the facility. Johnson claims a technician took baseball-like swings at Williams' frozen head with a monkey wrench. What?

I know some of the people involved. I expect that they are honest in saying that this never happened and that Johnson lied. Johnson himself later retracted the statements and his retraction said that he had no direct observation or evidence about the Ted Williams allegation; but this should probably not be regarded as significant evidence apart from my own claims about Alcor's probable honesty, since Alcor did in fact sue him and the book's author for libel.

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Post by the_gipsy »

dukeofdoom wrote: post #89
harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

The recent conspiracy I read is that Elon might be making clones of himself. The last post Ye (Kanye) mades was a symbol that had a star of David with a swastika in it. And Elon personally kicked him off twitter immediately. But that's actually a symbol for this cultish religious group. "Raëlism teaches that an extraterrestrial species known as the Elohim created humanity using their advanced technology. It claims th…

> In 1998, Raël established the Order of Angels, an internal all-female group whose members are largely sequestered from wider society and tasked with training themselves to become the Elohim's consorts.

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Post by adastra22 »

terminal_d wrote: post #202
ramraj07 wrote: post #175

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I for one would like a bit more time. 200? Maybe 500? No one likely wants to be immortal but 80 or so seems criminally short for what our abilities are and how long it takes for us to find our calling.

I think 100 is quite enough -- life is meant to be lived with people one knows.

You’re always free to take the quick way out. Don’t be so quick to condemn 8 billion other humans to the same short lifetime just because you can’t imagine living longer.

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Post by afiori »

chrisfosterelli wrote: post #174
wintorez wrote: post #168

Never understood the quest for immortality. We are the children of our time. When our time passes, we will live as strangers in a strange land, drowning in the sea of nostalgia. Death will simply takes us back to where we came from before our birth. Don’t fear the reaper.

In case it's insightful, I've correspondingly never understood the common contentment with death. The world is an incredible place, and there's so much to experience and do. If I had the time there's hundreds of careers I could spend a lifetime in each trying to develop mastery. I think I could live a thousand lives with the people I care about and not be done. I've had to choose one life, and it's a nice one, but if…

This is a beautiful feeling, but I believe it is far too easy to dismiss how risky "eliminating death" could be.

To offer one example democracy would be mostly impossible in a post mortality world.

Also immortal humans would be either fertile or infertile and both cases would create quite weird situations.

If I can conclude with some posturing, it is part of human nature to strive toward better conditions and solve the problems around us. This might be our demise, as both giving up on that nature and following it to its logical end might lead to our end.

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Post by adastra22 »

ramraj07 wrote: post #200
epicureanideal wrote: post #191

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You may find this organization (working on extending healthy human lifespan) interesting. https://www.levf.org/ I'm not involved with that organization, but I find their work very interesting. As a backup plan, there's Alcor. https://www.alcor.org/

As much as I’d like to live forever, I couldn’t in good conscience monetarily support research that’s explicitly focused on extending the life span of the privileged (including me) when more resources are needed in finding how to lift up everyone else left behind today.

Well you better not support cancer research either, as to at goes to the rich first long before it trickles down to public health systems.
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