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What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by hoseja »

epicureanideal wrote: post #195
chrisfosterelli wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In case it's insightful, I've correspondingly never understood the common contentment with death. The world is an incredible place, and there's so much to experience and do. If I had the time there's hundreds of careers I could spend a lifetime in each trying to develop mastery. I think I could live a thousand lives with the people I care about and not be done. I've had to choose one life, and it's a nice one, but if…

I'm absolutely shocked that more money and time is not spent researching how to cure death by aging. (Note that for those who discuss this semi-regularly, that's understood to be very different than seeking a cure for any particular age related disease, which usually we attempt to address when it's too late.). There are groups like https://www.levf.org/ doing some early work like Robust Mouse Rejuvenation (in mid-lif…

Imagine if they succeeded. Instant breakdown of society. So by induction, perhaps someone makes sure they don't.

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by eouwt »

scarygliders wrote: post #237

If one of the reasons for wishing to be frozen, is to see what the future looks like, then there is an alternative; Einstein to the rescue! Just strap yourself into a spaceship capable of reaching within a few % of the speed of light, and fly around for a bit. No need to wait till you're at death's door and turned into a corpsicle. Just head on out there for a few years at relativistic speed. By the time you slow dow…

"just"

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by pmichaud »

strken wrote: post #166
pmichaud wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m not signed up, but I know many people who are, and none of them assume any of these things. No one “expects” it to work, it’s just that they figure a long shot is better than no shot. The people I’ve talked to about it put their chances of successful revival at significantly less than 1%, and they think that’s worth it.

The LessWrong surveys asking (paraphrased) whether the average human iceblock from today will be reanimated seem to be in the low double digits. That's a lot higher than 1% and a lot higher than I'd put it. I'm glad there are signups for cryonics, just on the off chance it works and anthropologists hundreds of generations in the future get to talk to a real life human from our time period. If people started freezing…

Yeah I dunno. I mostly don't interact with LW, I mostly interact with people who are part of the in-person core of the community, so maybe the people online just have less realistic hopes than the core does.

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by Gordonjcp »

wintorez wrote: post #168

Never understood the quest for immortality. We are the children of our time. When our time passes, we will live as strangers in a strange land, drowning in the sea of nostalgia. Death will simply takes us back to where we came from before our birth. Don’t fear the reaper.

> drowning in the sea of nostalgia

# I LIKE BIG BUTTS AND I CANNOT LIE / YOU OTHA BROTHAS CAN'T DENY...

You can't just sit here in the dark listening to classical music, Fry.

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by Topgamer7 »

scarygliders wrote: post #237

If one of the reasons for wishing to be frozen, is to see what the future looks like, then there is an alternative; Einstein to the rescue! Just strap yourself into a spaceship capable of reaching within a few % of the speed of light, and fly around for a bit. No need to wait till you're at death's door and turned into a corpsicle. Just head on out there for a few years at relativistic speed. By the time you slow dow…

The flaw in your theory being that it would take you equally as long to slow down as it would to reach that speed. So you would age out on the deceleration.

I suppose you could accelerate in an orbit around earth to maintain contact. But my understanding of relativity is poor

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by epicureanideal »

hoseja wrote: post #241
epicureanideal wrote: post #195

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm absolutely shocked that more money and time is not spent researching how to cure death by aging. (Note that for those who discuss this semi-regularly, that's understood to be very different than seeking a cure for any particular age related disease, which usually we attempt to address when it's too late.). There are groups like https://www.levf.org/ doing some early work like Robust Mouse Rejuvenation (in mid-lif…

Imagine if they succeeded. Instant breakdown of society. So by induction, perhaps someone makes sure they don't.

> So by induction, perhaps someone makes sure they don't.

Yikes! That's a scary conspiracy theory!

(Note that I don't agree it would cause a breakdown in society.)

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by scarygliders »

eouwt wrote: post #242
scarygliders wrote: post #237

If one of the reasons for wishing to be frozen, is to see what the future looks like, then there is an alternative; Einstein to the rescue! Just strap yourself into a spaceship capable of reaching within a few % of the speed of light, and fly around for a bit. No need to wait till you're at death's door and turned into a corpsicle. Just head on out there for a few years at relativistic speed. By the time you slow dow…

"just"

The whole post was made in "humorous irony" ;)

However, successfully producing a relativistic spaceship is probably more possible right now than successfully creating and reviving human corpsicles... just sayin' ;)

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by pavlov »

UberFly wrote: post #234

I wanted to know the state of Ted William's head, so I did a search. This is what I found: In "Frozen," Larry Johnson, a former executive at the Alcor Life Extension Foundation in Scottsdale, Ariz., writes that Williams' head was abused at the facility. Johnson claims a technician took baseball-like swings at Williams' frozen head with a monkey wrench. What?

As the pharaohs already discovered, an immortality plan that depends on generations of low-paid underlings to maintain the dead elite's physical bodies is fundamentally flawed.
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