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Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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Re: Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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https://twitter.com/ppathole/status/1116670170980859905 Tech enthusiasts: My entire house is smart. Tech workers: The only piece of technology in my house is a printer and I keep a gun next to it so I can shoot it if it makes a noise I don't recognize. The only modification i'd recommend is replacing the gun with something simpler, like a sledgehammer. Can't be too careful.

I don't know, I have been a professional software developer for 15 years, and my whole house is smart. The trade offs are worth it to me.

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Re: Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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Almost every shitty thing young people do is due to their education. The other is social pressure but again the one applying the pressure also lacked proper education.

This seems like a pretty big generalization, just look at SBF as a counter example. There are plenty of educated young people that do stupid things, and depending on the stage of brain development there could be lots of other things at play: household dynamics being a prominent one, having the proper role models, plain ole human nature, etc...

Re: Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a few questions about the relevance of this. > 1.2 guns per citizen After 1 gun, do guns truly become more dangerous? For someone opening a door, I don't think handgun vs AR vs shotgun is a very meaningful distinction - you're going to die if you get shot in the face > loaded up to the gills Isn't it true that one of the top arguments used against gun control that criminals will have the weapons anyways? There…

A small group of Americans actually own guns, maybe 20%. So yes, the average gun owner has more like 5 guns. As for entering the property, if there’s five people and one gun, that’s a lot different to five people and thirty guns.

It's best to look at households because children generally don't own their own gun, and often if there is a couple, only one of them will own a gun (usually the man).

44% of US households have at least one firearm in the house.

Not "a small group".

In terms of individuals of all ages, it's 32% of all individuals owning guns -- 45% of all men own a gun but only 19% of all women own a gun.

Therefore the population where it's unusual to own a gun is single women. Single men are also less likely to own a gun than married men.

If we look at those who are married, 52% of all married couples live in a household with guns.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own...

Re: Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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post #85

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"Swatting" isn't a significant problem in other parts of the world because the result is super boring: The police knock on the door, ask some questions, and then leave. It is only a problem in the US because the response itself is terrifying and often dangerous. Multiple people have died from "swatting" in the US[0]. "Swatting" should carry a jail term for sure. But police reform is a large component in solving the p…

Keffals was swatted in Canada, and Canada has a far less extreme police and gun culture compared to the USA.

This is actually not true and it's just like myth propaganda propagated by Canada. The Royal mounted police are deeply murderous to native people till today. that's just a single example. in the same way that the American media blames every black man murdered by the police so does the Canadian.

That's because both countries are based on the continued enforcement of white supremacy.

Re: Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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post #23

> conduct regular scans for Ring passwords compromised in non-Ring breaches Does this mean that Ring stores plaintext passwords?

No. You take the compromised plaintext password, hash it using the same algorithm you typically do for your customers, then you check the hash for matches in your database of existing customer password hashes.

Shouldn't salting make that expensive?

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Is the rest of the world loaded up to the gills with weapons? There's 1.2 guns per citizen...

Switzerland is, yeah. No such issue there, however.

Ammunition is tightly controlled in Switzerland as far as I understand. Having guns is not that helpful without some ammunition. Most people are not going to be prepared to produce ammunition

Re: Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a few questions about the relevance of this. > 1.2 guns per citizen After 1 gun, do guns truly become more dangerous? For someone opening a door, I don't think handgun vs AR vs shotgun is a very meaningful distinction - you're going to die if you get shot in the face > loaded up to the gills Isn't it true that one of the top arguments used against gun control that criminals will have the weapons anyways? There…

A small group of Americans actually own guns, maybe 20%. So yes, the average gun owner has more like 5 guns. As for entering the property, if there’s five people and one gun, that’s a lot different to five people and thirty guns.

Your stats seemed low, so I looked it up on this Gallup poll. The data is from two years ago, but it probably hasn't changed much.

32% of US adults say they own a gun. 44% of adults say they live in a house that has at least one gun.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/264932/percentage-americans-own...

However, I agree with your overall sentiment -- the distribution is far from uniform.

Re: Amazon Ring cameras used in nationwide ‘swatting’ spree, US Justice Dept. says

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post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Swatting" isn't a significant problem in other parts of the world because the result is super boring: The police knock on the door, ask some questions, and then leave. It is only a problem in the US because the response itself is terrifying and often dangerous. Multiple people have died from "swatting" in the US[0]. "Swatting" should carry a jail term for sure. But police reform is a large component in solving the p…

Keffals was swatted in Canada, and Canada has a far less extreme police and gun culture compared to the USA.

>> "Swatting" isn't a significant problem in other parts of the world because the result is super boring: The police knock on the door, ask some questions, and then leave.

> Keffals was swatted in Canada, and Canada has a far less extreme police and gun culture compared to the USA.

I think it's egregious that she was actually arrested for something that the police should have realized was fake, or simply been able to sort out in-person. However, her claim that she woke up with an assault rifle in her face was simply not true. In the context of American swatting, it's more like swatting-light since Canadian police actually require training and attempt to de-escalate instead of solving every problem with guns.

> Officers did not conduct what is sometimes referred to as a “dynamic entry” into Ms. Sorrenti’s residence. Rather, they knocked on the door, announced themselves as police officers, and occupants answered. Any attempt by uninvolved third parties to suggest otherwise is inaccurate and irresponsible.

https://www.londonpolice.ca/en/news/statement-from-police-ch...

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