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What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by pnpnp »

harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

It can actually get really hot in space without some kind of active heat transfer. The body in the suit would probably alternate between freezing and frying. Not a great way to preserve a body IMO.

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by reducesuffering »

harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

> makes a certain amount more logical sense than a dummy in a space suit

Have you heard of Occam's Razor?

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by elkos »

pnpnp wrote: post #71
harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

It can actually get really hot in space without some kind of active heat transfer. The body in the suit would probably alternate between freezing and frying. Not a great way to preserve a body IMO.

Depends on where in space. In LEO... sure. In the orbit of the Tesla Roadster it's mostly warm isn't it?

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by harry8 »

pnpnp wrote: post #71
harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

It can actually get really hot in space without some kind of active heat transfer. The body in the suit would probably alternate between freezing and frying. Not a great way to preserve a body IMO.

Trying to use facts, logic, and this "science" stuff against me is futile as I have a perfectly good conspiracy theory!

The silver suit couldn't insulate and keep the heat out?

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by elkos »

harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

Or maybe that's the real Elon and that's an imposter?

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by semicolon_storm »

harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

Even if you were to stay frozen, the radiation you'd be exposed to in space would shred you at a cellular level way before the technology would come around to bring you back.

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by renonn »

banga wrote: post #70

I find the whole concept hilarious. There's an implicit assumption that someone in the future will be bothered to resurrect a frozen body, then resurrect them from death (since they already died before being popsicle-ified). And even if they could be bothered, the thawed would be a lab experiment, owned by whatever corporation pulled off the magic. And if magically they came out of the ordeal functional and free, the…

that was great to read

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by LarryMullins »

harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

It's in heliocentric orbit, it's getting cooked by solar radiation every day, taking the full brunt of solar flares without a magnetosphere to protect it, etc. If there were a body in the suit, it would surely turn into beef jerky. Or perhaps soup, if the suit can keep the fluids in. All the DNA would be shattered beyond repair by intense gamma radiation.

> but makes a certian amount more logical sense than a dummy in a space suit, huh?

It makes sense as a Heavy Metal reference.

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by reducesuffering »

oceanplexian wrote: post #60
RajT88 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It’s been a while, but if I could recall correctly, cells tended to have a finiteness in their very nature. This is known: https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Hayflick_limit

On the other hand, there are 150-year-old tortoises and 200-year-old whales out there. So it's not like there is some finite impossibility to living a long time, other animals have figured it out.

Even better, human species live indefinitely through human cells making new human fetal cells. At it's essence, it's still a chemical transformation process. Some compounds are being converted, old human to new human, which keeps life going indefinitely.

Re: What happened to the first cryogenically frozen humans?

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Post by ars »

harry8 wrote: post #67

So here is one of my current fav. conspiracy theories AND it involves Elon. Remember the first payload of his "Falcon Heavy" rocket - some tesla or other? Had a tailor's dummy in a space suit strapped in the front seat. That was a real person in the suit who had paid for the most effective, reliable and longest lasting cryogenic freeze available. No maintenance power required. Will continue to be frozen even if the e…

Scientifically not so good. Radiation damage will destroy everything in that body if someone actually did that.
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