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Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by rcarr »

cbozeman wrote: post #8

Mastodon is not and will not ever be a replacement for Twitter. Twitter's too large and the people who had bleu checks before the $7.99 fee are addicted to attention, validation, and/or lording their bleu check status over others. That's why Mastodon won't replace it. Sure, a few small (relative to Twitter) alternative Mastodon instances will pop up, but no real challenger or contender for the throne.

I still think substack might end up being the true twitter replacement, at least for journalists and academics.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by EamonnMR »

aprilnya wrote: post #66
EamonnMR wrote: post #63

My biggest gripe is that (afaik) there's no 'view other server's timeline' view-you need to actually go to that server, then back to yours when you want to follow someone. Instances are becoming sort of like meta-hashtags so I hope that gets added eventually.

why not look at actual hashtags (and if you’re on mastodon 4+, you can even follow them)?

People aren't great at using them yet. Anyway, the instances bring together a bunch of different topics broader than a single hashtag would collect, like infosec.exchange and sdf for tech stuff.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by dchuk »

I don’t understand why someone hasn’t just launched a full blown clone of twitter yet. The decentralized stuff doesn’t matter to basically all of the population.

Twitter is not an advanced product concept. A competent team can clone it quickly. Make it easy to migrate your past tweets over, maybe some way to migrate your connections, boom.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by OctopusLupid »

adamrezich wrote: post #82
mempko wrote: post #56

The discussions how a decentralized system like Mastodon won't work reminds me of the early days of networks. People were saying the same thing about the web and the internet and claiming CompuServe and AOL would dominate. Twitter is like CompuServe and AOL, Mastodon is like the internet. One based on proprietary systems, the other based on open standards like ActivityPub. History showed that centralization is ultima…

> History showed that centralization is ultimately extremely fragile. but how many people today use Discord et al. compared to IRC? I think the centralized-decentralized thing is a cycle, not a one-way logical progression.

My comment is uninformed, but I feel like centralised companies have the R&D resources to create innovation, which communities then steal (in a good way) to make the technology free (as in freedom) for everyone. That's why there's a cycle.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by OctopusLupid »

deltarholamda wrote: post #22
spaceribs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I could pose this question another way, what does Twitter do that Mastodon can't?

If you want to give somebody your handle, you say "@elonmusk," instead of saying "@elonmusk@mast.don.vanity.tld". (I didn't think Horseshoe Theory would bring back bangpaths, but here we are.) Personally I believe a big central silo for so-called public discussions is a terrible idea, but I do understand there is some value to it. However, there will always be a problem with this sort of thing because a very large nu…

On the other hand, your per-server handles can be much shorter. For example, @tim@apple.com vs @TimCook. This also comes with built-in verification; @TimCook@freerobux.com is probably fake.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by OctopusLupid »

standardUser wrote: post #24
spaceribs wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I could pose this question another way, what does Twitter do that Mastodon can't?

Allow users to signup in 3 seconds without "choosing a server".

I'm a server admin; I think there's merit to this thought. There is an initial hump.

We don't want to dump users randomly into a small server because the community aspect is much stronger there. Thus, we should dump them into a big server -- perhaps a randomly selected one, from a list of general-purpose trusted servers (ideally democratically selected, but for now JoinMastodon.org seems to be fine).

Then, encourage people to move to smaller instances, and make it easier to do so. It's currently too hard. I moved because I was envious of smaller server's interesting public timelines which catered more to my interests.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by ndm000 »

yamtaddle wrote: post #73
cbozeman wrote: post #8

Mastodon is not and will not ever be a replacement for Twitter. Twitter's too large and the people who had bleu checks before the $7.99 fee are addicted to attention, validation, and/or lording their bleu check status over others. That's why Mastodon won't replace it. Sure, a few small (relative to Twitter) alternative Mastodon instances will pop up, but no real challenger or contender for the throne.

Holy. Shit. I need to make an exclusive invite-only Mastodon instance with verified accounts, so being @ that server will be a status symbol. Is Bluecheck.com taken? (except now someone else will do it. Also I'm too lazy to actually do this)

I think this is where it's going. Particular Mastodon servers will provide certain guarantees to their users and about their users. It's easy to envision a white-glove server + service that provides user screening, phone support, etc. at a price. Over time when certain celebrities join it becomes the popular server and sought after as a username destination.

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by cdelsolar »

cbozeman wrote: post #8

Mastodon is not and will not ever be a replacement for Twitter. Twitter's too large and the people who had bleu checks before the $7.99 fee are addicted to attention, validation, and/or lording their bleu check status over others. That's why Mastodon won't replace it. Sure, a few small (relative to Twitter) alternative Mastodon instances will pop up, but no real challenger or contender for the throne.

all that I want is a place where I can see other tech people's comments on stuff I care about in tech; coding, architecture, cool technologies, whatever. People say that the network effect makes it impossible to switch over fully but look what happened with Freenode -- virtually _everyone_ moved to libera.chat in literally like two weeks. Is there an equivalent for Twitter? Which Mastodon "node" is the thing I'm looking for?

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by unshavedyak »

dchuk wrote: post #93

I don’t understand why someone hasn’t just launched a full blown clone of twitter yet. The decentralized stuff doesn’t matter to basically all of the population. Twitter is not an advanced product concept. A competent team can clone it quickly. Make it easy to migrate your past tweets over, maybe some way to migrate your connections, boom.

But why switch? Ie what is the reason i'm switching, that some new centralized Twitter clone wouldn't also potentially suffer from?

Re: Server stats say movetodon.org reached a new record of 49k users yesterday

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Post by notpachet »

jscipione wrote: post #72

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> exposing the greatest human rights violation in American history through the Twitter Files scandal

I don't usually reply in these Twitter threads, but cmon... surely you can see what a ridiculous hyperbole this is?

American history includes: > Mass enslavement > Incarceration of Japanese-Americans during WWII > Hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in war > Torture programs > Blacklisting of (ostensible) communists during the McCarthy era > Extermination and displacement of Native Americans

And that's just to name a few off the top of my head.

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