> Silicon Valley duders What is a "duder"? Is that equivalent to "Silicon Valley dudes"?
A "duder" would be a person that made dudes.
Really? From urbandictionary:
"Duder is a word of many possibilites. It can be used as a replacement for dude. It can also be used to mean someone is more dude-like than someone else (as in dude, duder, dudest.) It has also been known to be used to describe objects for which the name has been temporarily forgotten, or otherwise unknown to the user of the word. Still yet another usage is a verb which means the act of being a dude or doing dudely things."
still almost 100% techies in India never prefer or think about joining ISRO/DRDO which are world-class research organizations.
I wonder the same. I myself would so much love to be at ISRO/DRDO. They have tons of other facilities to match the high pay at software companies. I wish they had better ways of recruiting people with merit and passion. They are full of either Brahmins or SC/ST and people who are recruited through references.
> full of either Brahmins or SC/ST
thank you for bringing your prejudices here.
do you have any numbers to back that up?
> people who are recruited through references
this need not be a bad thing ,which is why most companies have a internal referral program.
That's within the budget of many Silicon Valley duders. I would suspect that figure belies some costs they aren't taking into account.
Space launch is just not as hard as we've been led to believe by those sucking at the government teat. In 1980, a 2nd world country was getting ready to assemble a launch system that would've attained launch costs as low as $600 per kg. (This would've been limited to hardened or bulk cargoes due to high G forces, but that's still awesome and damn useful!) The price of this system was only $25 million (1980.) That's a…
Your missing one variable: profit.
No rich silicon valley duder is going to spend $25 million unless hes gets a return.
Space launch is just not as hard as we've been led to believe by those sucking at the government teat. In 1980, a 2nd world country was getting ready to assemble a launch system that would've attained launch costs as low as $600 per kg. (This would've been limited to hardened or bulk cargoes due to high G forces, but that's still awesome and damn useful!) The price of this system was only $25 million (1980.) That's a…
Your missing one variable: profit. No rich silicon valley duder is going to spend $25 million unless hes gets a return.
I wonder the same. I myself would so much love to be at ISRO/DRDO. They have tons of other facilities to match the high pay at software companies. I wish they had better ways of recruiting people with merit and passion. They are full of either Brahmins or SC/ST and people who are recruited through references.
> full of either Brahmins or SC/ST thank you for bringing your prejudices here. do you have any numbers to back that up? > people who are recruited through references this need not be a bad thing ,which is why most companies have a internal referral program.
I thought I shall mail you instead but couldn't find a contact or any useful information on your profile page.
Please walk into IISc and you shall know. It is not merely about the number it is about the people who would control the system. I agree the divide based on caste is gradually lowering however we are still not there yet.
It is a fact that all of these research institutes are concentrated in the south - IISc, ISRO, DRDO (and the rest in CV RamanNagar, Bangalore) and casteism has always been the problem here.
NASA has a large number of Indians. I am sure Indian Research would be in a lot better state if they evangelize and hire more youngsters.
We definitely have a smart bunch of people in pure sciences than in business. Why do you think we cannot retain them here in India ?
> full of either Brahmins or SC/ST thank you for bringing your prejudices here. do you have any numbers to back that up? > people who are recruited through references this need not be a bad thing ,which is why most companies have a internal referral program.
I thought I shall mail you instead but couldn't find a contact or any useful information on your profile page. Please walk into IISc and you shall know. It is not merely about the number it is about the people who would control the system. I agree the divide based on caste is gradually lowering however we are still not there yet. It is a fact that all of these research institutes are concentrated in the south - IISc,…
India will comprehensively prosper when 85% of all registered marriages are Inter-Caste or Inter-Religious.
But doesn't every developed country depend on a large pool of cheap labour (i.e. poor people, working for low wages)? You could look at is as Europe and the US just outsourcing their cheap labour, whereas India keeps it in-house?
What you are not getting is that while outsourcing does mean cheap labour for Europe and US, it is not necessarily cheap for India(you mentioned keeping in-house). What you think is cheap are standard wages in India. It is cost cutting for US companies but not for Indian companies.
No, I do get that. Perhaps I wasn't clear.
I was trying to point out that these same pool of people (low-paid workers in India and/or China) are necessary to the economies of all developed economies. And so it's not really fair to say India isn't a developed economy simply because it contains this pool of people.
India becomes the 4th country after USSR, USA and Japan. It is a great moment for the developing nation.
India has nuclear power (and weapons) and aircraft carriers. To all intents and purposes, it's a developed nation. Underestimating India on the assumption that it is "developing" or "poor" is a mistake that will bite competitor nations on the arse if they're not careful.
Yours is really a poor definition for “developed nation.” A more standard definition of development is based the amount of available capital in an economy. Compared to W. Europe, Japan, N. America, etc., India has a pitifully low amount of capital, per capita (also a poor population: 25% is still below the official poverty line, etc.). Interestingly, one of the chief factors slowing Indian economic growth may be that it has avoided specializing in products requiring cheap unskilled labor (e.g. textiles), as China, etc., have, instead wielding protectionist policies which supported local capital but ultimately weakened its ability to compete on the world market, and other regulation, like draconian labor laws, which have discouraged direct foreign investment. See http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2008/01/why...;