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‘Once-in-a-lifetime’ find of 1,300-year-old necklace dazzles historians

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> The necklace, believed to belong to a devout medieval woman, almost certainly an aristocrat, shines new light on the spread of early Christianity through medieval Europe and offers a glimpse into the role played by elite women in forging England’s Christian identity, experts say.

This doesn’t sound dazzling, even to experts.

Article titles like this always get my hopes up for “we have to change all the textbooks”, but it almost never happens.

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It seems strange that they're so sure it's from the seventh century given the Roman coins on it. Maybe they're what help date it? I'd be interested to know who's depicted on them, what they say and what language is used.

> It seems strange that they're so sure it's from the seventh century given the Roman coins on it. Maybe they're what help date it?

I would guess the coins are much older than the necklace -- the alternative would be that they're from the Byzantine empire -- and the necklace is being dated based on the grave in which it was found.

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> The necklace, believed to belong to a devout medieval woman, almost certainly an aristocrat, shines new light on the spread of early Christianity through medieval Europe and offers a glimpse into the role played by elite women in forging England’s Christian identity, experts say. This doesn’t sound dazzling, even to experts. Article titles like this always get my hopes up for “we have to change all the textbooks”,…

> “This woman probably belonged to the first generation of English Christians in this part of England,” Francis Young, a historian of religion who was not involved in the excavation, told The Post. “This is people wanting to show off their newly acquired identity as Christians.”

Artifact interpretation is always so tendentious. Lots of people wear necklaces with a cross pendant today. They are mostly not trying to show off their newly acquired identity as Christians.

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> The necklace, believed to belong to a devout medieval woman, almost certainly an aristocrat, shines new light on the spread of early Christianity through medieval Europe and offers a glimpse into the role played by elite women in forging England’s Christian identity, experts say. This doesn’t sound dazzling, even to experts. Article titles like this always get my hopes up for “we have to change all the textbooks”,…

> “This woman probably belonged to the first generation of English Christians in this part of England,” Francis Young, a historian of religion who was not involved in the excavation, told The Post. “This is people wanting to show off their newly acquired identity as Christians.” Artifact interpretation is always so tendentious. Lots of people wear necklaces with a cross pendant today. They are mostly not trying to sh…

Most people wearing necklaces are not first generation Christians. After you eliminate those, why are the remaining necklace-wearing ones doing it?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> “This woman probably belonged to the first generation of English Christians in this part of England,” Francis Young, a historian of religion who was not involved in the excavation, told The Post. “This is people wanting to show off their newly acquired identity as Christians.” Artifact interpretation is always so tendentious. Lots of people wear necklaces with a cross pendant today. They are mostly not trying to sh…

Most people wearing necklaces are not first generation Christians. After you eliminate those, why are the remaining necklace-wearing ones doing it?

Because its a pretty necklace?

Re: ‘Once-in-a-lifetime’ find of 1,300-year-old necklace dazzles historians

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The December 7th, 2022 MOLA blog post (the progenitor press release) here:

https://www.mola.org.uk/blog/%E2%80%98once-lifetime%E2%80%99...

Twit release:

https://twitter.com/MOLArchaeology/status/160048215093513421...

The earlier site geophysics and excavation field reports can be found (as an exercise for the reader) with a bit of searching.

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