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“The more reliant we are on others, the less resilient we are as a nation”

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Re: “The more reliant we are on others, the less resilient we are as a nation”

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> None of this was our choice. Nobody wants this. Nobody likes this. Billions of people do. Don't confuse what you don't like with what nobody likes. You had the freedom to vote, you voted, you elected people from your Country to govern your own Country, can't blame anyone else. > Those hospitals are understaffed because of extraordinary levels of foreign immigration (globalism); citation needed > extremely high rate…

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Re: “The more reliant we are on others, the less resilient we are as a nation”

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Waning traditional norms happened all cover the world, including in the west. I don’t think globalization was the driver.

I would think that something happening all over the world would hint that globalization may be a factor.

It might be a factor, but it probably has more to do with decades of exporting western values via media, Internet, etc.

Re: “The more reliant we are on others, the less resilient we are as a nation”

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Income inequality is downstream from globalism (middle class jobs get exported), so I think you’re making his point?

Income inequality is downstream from unregulated capitalism. How many big anti-monopoly moves were actually done in the last 20 years compared to pre-Reagan or pre-Thatcher times?

I don’t understand what point you’re making because (1) no one has unregulated capitalism (2) globalization didn’t meaningfully exist in the pre-Reagan era, and (3) how would a “pre-Reagan globalization” not have exported jobs? “Exporting jobs” is pretty much the definition of globalization as it pertains to wealthy countries.

EDIT: Also (4) I’m pretty sure almost every “very regulated” economy in the world has more inequality as a consequence of globalization. It’s really hard to imagine a practical globalization that doesn’t create concentrated wealth and poverty.

Re: “The more reliant we are on others, the less resilient we are as a nation”

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I admire your strength of feeling on this topic but you’ve really mistaken my point. My point: countries with economic interdependence are less likely to go to war, which is a fact to consider when advocating for reduction of interdependence among nuclear powers. I think you took that to be a claim that any economic interdependence absolutely eliminates any chance of war. I’m not arguing that China is great or any of…

>My point: countries with economic interdependence are less likely to go to war, And my point is: Russia broke this `rule' indirectly (meaning going to war with a country that they know would be protected by countries that they are interdependent on), so China could too. Russia and Europe were strongly intertwined, yet Putin and his generals still went to war knowing that there would be dire economic consequences. Th…

I’d like to encourage you to reflect on how you read a statement about probability as being a “rule”. That’s not a leap people make in good faith.

Re: “The more reliant we are on others, the less resilient we are as a nation”

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>My point: countries with economic interdependence are less likely to go to war, And my point is: Russia broke this `rule' indirectly (meaning going to war with a country that they know would be protected by countries that they are interdependent on), so China could too. Russia and Europe were strongly intertwined, yet Putin and his generals still went to war knowing that there would be dire economic consequences. Th…

I’d like to encourage you to reflect on how you read a statement about probability as being a “rule”. That’s not a leap people make in good faith.

I used the wrong word. I should've used `fact', which is what you used for your own clause.

Re: “The more reliant we are on others, the less resilient we are as a nation”

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> ? I would give up every bit of cheap plastic junk in a heartbeat if it meant my great grandchildren will have a homeland to live in peace that's exactly what globalization did for billions of people once oppressed by colonialists Countries, such as the UK. You could stop buying cheap plastic, but you'll never get the empire back. Because people want their great grandchildren to have a homeland to live in peace But…

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> Those hospitals are understaffed because of extraordinary levels of foreign immigration (globalism)

Rubbish. The rest of your post is just as bad.

Re: “The more reliant we are on others, the less resilient we are as a nation”

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Users flagged it, software marked it as a flamewar, and moderators downweighted the thread. I don't know in what order these things happened, but as the article seems like garden-variety political material (not to mention flamefodder), it's not particularly on topic for HN.

p.s. Number of comments doesn't make a story rank higher, nor should it.

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