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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, but that's not Ebert's critique.

It was his fifth bullet point: "Competition from other forms of delivery. […] Netflix alone accounts for 30% of all internet traffic in the evening. That represents millions of moviegoers. They're simply not in a theater." Ebert didn't really tie it into the overall argument as well as I would have liked, but he did bring it up.

Doh. Thanks!

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What does it take to have movies that are in theater streamed to your home? Would you not watch more movies at theater prices if you could watch it on your couch at 12:01am Friday morning? I think the problem is at the theater, the companies get $12/person, $12 PER person. How can we come up with a solution where they still get their dollars, but I don't have to leave my couch to go sit in a dirty, loud theater to wa…

I'd pay double, maybe even triple the regular price of streaming rental (~$5) to see movies at home on the day of release.

Many big sport live PPV events (the closest currently to a movie on day of release) are in the $45-60 range, which is also what it costs for a small group of friends to go see a movie at the cinema. So I imagine that would be a more reasonable price point. Would you be willing to pay that much?

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I think Alamo Drafthouse in Austin is doing it right: 1. Food & beer/wine served with movie -- convenient and much preferable to overpriced popcorn. 2. Cellphones must be turned off. 3. They take talking seriously, and preface each film with a strongly (and amusingly) worded statement to that effect. 4. No babies allowed except on specified baby nights. 5. Creative and fun special events, such as quote-alongs, sing-a…

Why is there nothing like like this in the SF Bay Area? It seems to me a theater that served beer and decent pub food would do well in SF and I'd pay a premium both for the movie tix and the food, but at the same time similar quirky places like the Red Vic shutdown.

There used to be one in Oakland.

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Sequels, remakes, remakes of sequels, remakes of remakes. No need to go any further.

Actually I don't mind prequels, sequels, or remakes as long as they are well made. The problem is that they are often a cop out and use the original as the only draw to see a new not so good movie.

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I think Alamo Drafthouse in Austin is doing it right: 1. Food & beer/wine served with movie -- convenient and much preferable to overpriced popcorn. 2. Cellphones must be turned off. 3. They take talking seriously, and preface each film with a strongly (and amusingly) worded statement to that effect. 4. No babies allowed except on specified baby nights. 5. Creative and fun special events, such as quote-alongs, sing-a…

Why is there nothing like like this in the SF Bay Area? It seems to me a theater that served beer and decent pub food would do well in SF and I'd pay a premium both for the movie tix and the food, but at the same time similar quirky places like the Red Vic shutdown.

The Kabuki theatre in japantown does a decent approximation for this. Seeing a movie there is a quite enjoyable experience.

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I like that some independent films are beginning to branch out in their strategy. For example, one of the best films of the year -- Margin Call -- was released on a variety of streaming services the same day it was available in theaters. Sometimes I like watching a movie at home, other times I'm looking for a chance to go out. Dates will probably always involve movie theaters for my girlfriend and myself -- even if I…

For example, one of the best films of the year -- Margin Call -- was released on a variety of streaming services the same day it was available in theaters I agree. Sometimes I feel I could pay $3-$5 if I could watch the movie from home on opening day.

They are experimenting with that and pricing it more as a PPV event, $30-$50. Not a bad price if you consider a family of 4 or if you have a good spot to gather some friends together.

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I think Alamo Drafthouse in Austin is doing it right: 1. Food & beer/wine served with movie -- convenient and much preferable to overpriced popcorn. 2. Cellphones must be turned off. 3. They take talking seriously, and preface each film with a strongly (and amusingly) worded statement to that effect. 4. No babies allowed except on specified baby nights. 5. Creative and fun special events, such as quote-alongs, sing-a…

Why is there nothing like like this in the SF Bay Area? It seems to me a theater that served beer and decent pub food would do well in SF and I'd pay a premium both for the movie tix and the food, but at the same time similar quirky places like the Red Vic shutdown.

Kabuki theater At Geary and...Fillmore (japantown)? in SF has assigned seating (pick when you purchase), a bar/lounge, nice captains chairs, and beer/wine in some of the theaters in the evenings. They also have a good mix of movies.

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One of the major reasons I don't see many movies in the theater is that the movie companies have made much cheaper alternatives available.

I won't pay twelve dollars a ticket to watch a movie in the theater when it probably will be just as enjoyable at home. That goes for a lot of comedies and movies that lack the cinematography to justify seeing on the big screen. I'll still see the ppv movies and pay to do so, but not at the cost of going to the theater.

The blockbusters mentioned in the article - Batman and Avatar, were blockbusters largely because they were worth seeing on the giant screen and even worth dealing with the cost and hassle of 3D. I'll keep going to films with big visuals, but not the rest.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd pay double, maybe even triple the regular price of streaming rental (~$5) to see movies at home on the day of release.

^-Same here. However that is not going to happen due to the fact that Hollywood is devoted to protecting their brick and mortar distribution network, a.k.a, the theater.

I think Hollywood could care less about movie theaters. That said, they can't get people to pay them $10/person to watch a movie at home, so the theater model allows them to take advantage of customers, price-wise.

I think there's just way too much inefficiency in Hollywood -- the video game industry provides much better entertainment value-per-dollar (in terms of hours of entertainment, at least). That's partly due to the medium, of course, but I can't help but imagine that if someone could develop hollywood-like films without actually being part of the hollywood apparatus, they'd be poised to really disrupt that market.

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