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The Dangerous Effects of Reading

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Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

#31

I definitely agree about the "filtering crap from gold" bit. Once you reach a certain level of skill it can become a hindrance: you develop an extremely low tolerance for anything that doesn't catch you as interesting within a few seconds, and you start speed-reading absolutely everything. This is good in that you aren't wasting time consuming something that's not really useful, but it's bad in that you end up contin…

Crap. Right around sentence three I started skimming your post.

Thanks for waking me up

Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

#32

I definitely agree about the "filtering crap from gold" bit. Once you reach a certain level of skill it can become a hindrance: you develop an extremely low tolerance for anything that doesn't catch you as interesting within a few seconds, and you start speed-reading absolutely everything. This is good in that you aren't wasting time consuming something that's not really useful, but it's bad in that you end up contin…

Crap. Right around sentence three I started skimming your post. Thanks for waking me up

When I hit submit and saw the length of my post I realized the irony :)

Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

#33

> Get off the popular train – teach yourself not to judge based on anything other than your own view. Stop listening to the mainstream radio or to popular music channels. Try college radio. This will just make things worse! Trust me.

I don't remember the last time I listened to mainstream radio or watched a TV channel. Can you explain how this makes things worse?

I didn't quote anything about TV -- I was pointing out that getting deeper into music, especially of the indie/college radio variety, is an even bigger step into the mire of trying to discern quality/buzz/popularity/etc.

Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

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post #6

I don't know if it's that dangerous. One of my biggest fears is to be stranded somewhere and not having anything to read, and I had this fear way before smart-phones were invented. I can still remember how at 14 I was reading "Ender's Game" in the middle of nowhere where my grand-mother had sent me to graze the cows. From time to time I would just take my eyes out of the book to make sure that the cows hadn't trespas…

This reminds me of "Time Enough at Last".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Enough_at_Last

Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

#35

I definitely agree about the "filtering crap from gold" bit. Once you reach a certain level of skill it can become a hindrance: you develop an extremely low tolerance for anything that doesn't catch you as interesting within a few seconds, and you start speed-reading absolutely everything. This is good in that you aren't wasting time consuming something that's not really useful, but it's bad in that you end up contin…

I've also found that taking notes is extremely helpful when I'm trying to understand something. Especially when I'm reading on the computer, where it's so easy to open a new tab and do something different. However, every time I've tried to use something like OneNote or org-mode, or anything that I think will help me organize my notes, I get extremely frustrated. So, instead, I just keep a cheap spiral bound notebook next to my computer. Being forced to write on something other than the computer is great, and I've found I don't need to organize the notes really, they're in chronological order and easy to flip through.

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#36
There is a big difference between musician and non-musician members of the audience. At this point in our history, there is no reason why a denizen of the first world can't be a maker or a creative of some sort.

Being a maker or a creative of some substance requires one to study a particular subject in depth. A part of the challenge the Internet creates, is that it's very easy to get a hugely broad sweep of rather shallow information. It's just not possible to study the whole range of information in depth, but we can send deep probes at one, two, or a few points and thus get a good idea of how deep the ocean of knowledge really is.

Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

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post #6

I don't know if it's that dangerous. One of my biggest fears is to be stranded somewhere and not having anything to read, and I had this fear way before smart-phones were invented. I can still remember how at 14 I was reading "Ender's Game" in the middle of nowhere where my grand-mother had sent me to graze the cows. From time to time I would just take my eyes out of the book to make sure that the cows hadn't trespas…

"stranded somewhere and not having anything to read". I can associate with this. Although there has been much written about the function and role of boredom in modern society. In particular, that while boredom may not be pleasant, or well understood, it is a different state of mind as opposed to active engagement and entertainment. And perhaps in the state of mind, certain thoughts may rise that need such an environment to percolate to the surface.

Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

#38

You are right. Excessive consumption can get in the way of creation. However, I think consumption can also inform creation. I have recently made a conscious decision to comment more-often and submit more links to Hacker News. I want to create, engage, contribute and create more content. The transition from using HN as a tech RSS reader to actually engaging more with the community has been a really refreshing one. I d…

You are right. Excessive consumption can get in the way of creation. However, I think consumption can also inform creation.

Excessive consumption can also get in the way of quality consumption.

Analogy: I remember the days when Times Square in New York was a free-for-all of adult themed establishments. Sometimes, this sort of over the top shouting makes you want and appreciate what's being advertised even less.

Analogy with music: I find that many mainstream audiences are immune to many musical subtleties and often have only the crudest understanding of rhythm. Many such people are unable to hold a melody in their heads, much less process complex melodies. Music used to be a special and rare thing to be cherished, sought out, and paid attention to. Now it's a background thing that we largely tune out.

What's really disturbing about reading and writing suffering from this phenomenon is that writing is frozen cognition. If there is so much to be read that we are tuning it out, then what's the point? If we are reading so much that we are reading without deep cognition, then really we are hardly reading at all.

Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

#39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't remember the last time I listened to mainstream radio or watched a TV channel. Can you explain how this makes things worse?

I didn't quote anything about TV -- I was pointing out that getting deeper into music, especially of the indie/college radio variety, is an even bigger step into the mire of trying to discern quality/buzz/popularity/etc.

It can be. However, if you find DJs who you really enjoy, then you let them do all the curating and mire wandering for you. I posted a bit about this and the difference between college radio and freeform radio: http://cacciatc.github.com/other/2011/12/29/get-off-the-popu...

Re: The Dangerous Effects of Reading

#40

We are given 2 ears and 2 eyes to read and listen, but given only one mouth to express ourselves. So, nature herself optimized us for consumption ;-). Also, when we use the term reading it is usually meant for longer content. But, most of what people do with smartphones could at best be called juggling or glancing. We don't stop creating because we are consuming more. It is other way round. We are consuming more beca…

We don't stop creating because we are consuming more. It is other way round. We are consuming more because we are afraid of creating.

I think that is very key. If one can convince a population that they are not capable of mastery then you can make them feel inferior and keep them as your subjects. This is why so many royal courts funded and raised up artists and musicians and claimed the culture they created as theirs. The inverse is also why so many independence movements have also grown up beside artistic and intellectual movements.

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