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Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll

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I would love Elon Musk to stay. So he can accomplish his mission of destroying Twitter for good, take down BlueSky and all the associated crypto crapware with it, and take down his own other businesses in the process. Two birds with one stone: 1. The whole idea of social media owned by large private companies that make money out of ads and surveillance will get a big hit, and open ActivityPub-based social media can f…

Btw I must also thank Elon for helping Mastodon so much. https://cdn.masto.host/bitcoinhackers/media_attachments/file... Every time he suspends a high profile Twitter account for posting Mastodon links (or, as he did recently, changes the T&Cs to explicitly "prohibit sharing Mastodon links"), we get a new spike of users and content on the Fediverse. He's doing more to bring people to the Fediverse than years of enthu…

He could hardly do a better job if he tried. Which kind of makes me wonder, is he trying?

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It's instructive to contrast what other billionaires did with media properties they owned: - Jeff Bezos personally bought Washington Post but he left it alone and let the editors run it. What Jeff did do was invest some money into the IT department to modernize the workflow tools (metrics dashboards, etc) for journalists. He stayed out of the decisions of what stories get run on the front page. - Rupert Murdoch owns…

Why would Bexzos buy the Post if not to influence its narrative? I don't think he's gonna own a news agency that will run stories undercutting Amazon.

Seems like very critical article about Amazon in Post:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/interactive/2022/a...

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#584

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> He is a genius I realize this is part of his narrative but I struggle to find the genius. As best i can tell he's a generally successful businessman.

It's hyperbole. Tesla and SpaceX were insane accomplishments in moribund industries (the first successful auto startup in 80 years, and pretty much singlehanfedly revitalizing space travel which was basically dead, people with way more resources tried and failed at both of them). That being said, the Twitter acquisition is the work of a petulant child

The ball was already rolling on Tesla before Elon came along though. He was the majority of their first funding round but their company structure and development of a concept car was already underway. He just saw the opportunity that others were already working on and funded it, then stepped in, pushed the original founders out, and claimed it was his idea in the first place until he and the company settled a lawsuit in 2009.

SpaceX was truly his and he found great people to lead the company judging by their results. Contrary to your statement though, space travel wasn't dead at all. During the early SpaceX era when they launched zero rockets there were still a number of successful missions from organizations around the globe as well as routine commercial satellite launches. The key thing SpaceX did was cheapen launch costs to the point where existing launch companies had to start competing. This is down to the engineering achievements at SpaceX.

Musk is a face for businesses but if I were an investor in those other two ventures I'd definitely be concerned that this focus on Twitter is distracting him from his actual important work at those other companies, and I'd probably be pissed about what he's done to the share price of Telsa.

Re: Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll

#585

I think he only posts polls when he believes he knows the outcome already. Yesterday he posted a poll about unsuspending the journalist accounts and when the outcome wasn't what he wanted instead of following the majority vote he posted it again with different options (with the same result, which he did abide by the second time). I think this indicates he's tired of Twitter already. But he still owns it, so who will…

It made sense to remove the first poll. It wasn’t constructed in the best way. The revision was warranted in my opinion, and doesn’t necessarily show that he was being tricksy.

Re: Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll

#586

I think he only posts polls when he believes he knows the outcome already. Yesterday he posted a poll about unsuspending the journalist accounts and when the outcome wasn't what he wanted instead of following the majority vote he posted it again with different options (with the same result, which he did abide by the second time). I think this indicates he's tired of Twitter already. But he still owns it, so who will…

Of course he knows what the results will be. He owns twitter. He has all the admin passwords to the server that runs the poll. The admins that run the server answer to him. The result of this poll will be whatever Elon Musk wants it to be.

More like he wins either way

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Yes = he gets to step away from the dumpster fire without it looking like it was his decision

No = all of his previous decisions are justified

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#587
post #394

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am a big Musk critic, but I think his rise demonstrates a genius for hype and PR. The amount of free media and cheap capital that Tesla got was extraordinary, and I think that was down to Musk. A big falsifying hypothesis from this would be to predict that there are NOT any high-up PR staff of notable quality that have been around him for a long time. If the PR people around him evince no particular talent for it…

But choosing the right team is part of being a successful business man. I still think it's fair to credit him for SpaceX despite Gwynne Shotwell and his engineers running the company; he founded it, he brought the vision and he hired the right people. Elon had a lot of luck, no doubt, but his track record is simply impressive and for that, I think it's fair to say that he has extraordinary talent.

> But choosing the right team is part of being a successful business man.

Sure, but it becomes hard to distinguish luck from talent. How would you know that an up and coming but talented PR person didn’t pick him? Or that was random?

It’s the major flaw with idolisation. Ends and means aren’t that tightly coupled. Against the utility of idolising someone, is the noise worth it? Ever?

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#588
post #427

I would love Elon Musk to stay. So he can accomplish his mission of destroying Twitter for good, take down BlueSky and all the associated crypto crapware with it, and take down his own other businesses in the process. Two birds with one stone: 1. The whole idea of social media owned by large private companies that make money out of ads and surveillance will get a big hit, and open ActivityPub-based social media can f…

I would love to see this poll go "no", though I suspect that he would step down anyway. He probably already had a replacement in mind before he posted the poll.

I mean he deleted and redid his last two polls when the answer he didn't like won, so I'm not sure why anyone would expect this to go differently. If it's an overwhelming yes vote, he'll delete it I think.

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#589

I would love Elon Musk to stay. So he can accomplish his mission of destroying Twitter for good, take down BlueSky and all the associated crypto crapware with it, and take down his own other businesses in the process. Two birds with one stone: 1. The whole idea of social media owned by large private companies that make money out of ads and surveillance will get a big hit, and open ActivityPub-based social media can f…

Totally agreed about BlueSky and all the crypto-related nonsense needing to go, but thinking that ActivityPub is the future is as naive as thinking the Linux desktop is the future.

There are significant technical, scalability and user experience challenges with ActivityPub-based systems that people refuse to acknowledge and address. Some of those challenges may not even have a good solution - turns out there are also advantages to centralisation, and fixing social media toxicity doesn't necessarily require throwing the baby out with the bathwater and going all-in on a decentralised solution.

Re: Should I step down as head of Twitter? I will abide by the results of this poll

#590

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Well yeah, duh. Of course people can do what they want. Criticizing Musk's (or anybodies) actions is not tantamount to trying to say he shouldn't be allowed to do them (except for the stuff he actually shouldn't be allowed to do, and hopefully gets prosecuted for - mostly violating employment law). I'm not really sure what you're trying to say here? People should vote with their wallets/service usage but never ever d…

I just find it ironic how the sides have swapped. Previously when Twitter was censoring right-wing opinions, leftists went “it's a private company, they can do whatever they want and you're not allowed to criticize them”. Now that Musk has taken over, it seems to be the opposite.
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