Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed] • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 4:46 AM UTC

slg wrote: post #386

threatofrain wrote: post #122

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From official Twitter support: > We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter. > Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, T…

Notice that TikTok isn't on the list. Seems like Musk crafted the rules in a way to ensure that one of his favorite Twitter accounts is safe from this rule about posting links to other social media.

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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by roumenguha » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 4:46 AM UTC

ALittleLight wrote: post #847

fluidcruft wrote: post #768

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First, ban everyone who votes "Yes" because obvious bots are obvious and then re-issue the poll. So many birds killed with the same stone.

Why would you say that? He honored previous polls, including the one to restore the banned journalists.

Not all of them.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by archsurface » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 4:52 AM UTC

benmorris wrote: post #97

If it isn't obvious this is the new norm for Twitter. Elon is making up the rules as he goes and ruling like a pissed off insecure reddit mod. I don't buy into all the freedom of speech rhetoric he has been spewing. This is about control and fueling his ego. It is a real shame because I wanted to continue using Twitter like I always have, but I don't think that will be possible.

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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by rufus_foreman » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 4:54 AM UTC

mvkel wrote: post #912

rufus_foreman wrote: post #540

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>> It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to I have no idea what this means.

What I meant was if you were primarily on YouTube, you still had a Twitter. On insta? You still had a Twitter. LinkedIn? Twitter. Blog/website? Twitter. Everyone had a Twitter regardless of where their meat and potatoes content was.

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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by AlexandrB » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 5:02 AM UTC

hackernewds wrote: post #590

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #519

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With Jared Kushner right next to him? Man the Monkey’s Paw is fully clenched.

This is where the value of Twitter is. Not in the money, it's in the DMs. Twitter for Elon, is power not money. Watch it be a massive force for influence campaigns by 2024.

At this rate, politicians are going to have to learn Mastodon by 2024.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by esalman » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 5:18 AM UTC

At some point during the Covid pandemic, Paul Graham said something to the effect of, the pandemic has accelerated how quickly and often people are proven wrong.

Twitter situation is similar. Until very recently, PG himself and a lot of other seemingly smart people backed Elon Musk. Elon was given a pass for, among other things, smoking weed on camera, claiming Covid panic was dumb, Covid will be over in months, using subsides, manipulating stock and crypto prices, pedo guy comment, labor suppression in his companies etc. and the list goes on. After all of that, it is sharing social links on Twitter that breaks the camels back. It is at the same time kinda hilarious and also puts the smartness of those who backed Elon into question.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by viknesh » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 5:26 AM UTC

stanleydrew wrote: post #544

AJ007 wrote: post #397

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The message over the past week has been pretty clear -- the rules change without notice and will be changed based on what pisses elon off. That make Twitter now a niche message board. All of the elaborate justifications and explanations for buying Twitter and what was going on wrong over there while it was public have been thrown out the window, no matter what your point of view was. The fact that this most recent on…

> Elon might be getting margin called on Tesla right now, which could wipe him out financially. I don't think this is how margin calls work. Presuming your broker is properly managing risk, then a margin call is explicitly designed to not wipe you out financially. You have to put up more capital or sell positions in order to maintain a certain amount of equity in your account, and that required amount is never zero (…

Margin calls are designed to stop the broker from losing money, not the customer.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by TravelTechGuy » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 5:33 AM UTC

TillE wrote: post #824

b33j0r wrote: post #822

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I vaguely feel like someone (ahem) is trying to get us to riot over silly things, as an experiment. It doesn’t make any sense.

Musk's entire Twitter reign makes complete sense if you just view it as one thin-skinned guy arbitrarily lashing out. There's no secret plan, he's just trying to "fix" whatever personally bothers him.

Makes even more sense if you treat it as a foreign hostile takeover.

A quick look at some of the funding sources for the $44b, and the distinct direction Twitter took post-acquisition suggest (to me at least - personal opinion) that Musk is promoting certain (alt-right) agendas. It could also be that the goal is to burn Twitter to the ground, as it has been touted by the US government as a “freedom tool”.

I can easily imagine Mohammed Bone Saw solving potential outcries of future heinous acts, by making sure there’s no outlet to discuss them.

Again, just my private opinion.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by OctopusLupid » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 5:33 AM UTC

monkeywork wrote: post #681

DonHopkins wrote: post #551

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Does it make any sense to spin up your own little Mastodon server just for you and your most trusted friends, so you don't have to spend any time moderating content?

Yes I wish we could have some sort of rule where you could never have more than 100 or so people per server and the community really really focused on making the deploy instructions as simple as possible for people to use with things like Oracles free tier, or the low cost VPS's out there. Mastodon instances with 10's of thousands of users is a TERRIBLE idea for the long term viability of the service.

Related link advocating for the same thing: https://runyourown.social/

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by themacguffinman » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 6:10 AM UTC

chimeracoder wrote: post #917

themacguffinman wrote: post #788

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@paulg's Twitter followers seem to have been wiped clean so his follower count is much lower now. Not really sure if that's part of the punishment or if that's an engineering failure.

> @paulg's Twitter followers seem to have been wiped clean so his follower count is much lower now. Not really sure if that's part of the punishment or if that's an engineering failure. This happens every time an account is restored from deactivation (voluntary) or suspension. It takes time to rebuild the cache - usually a few hours, though with very large accounts it can take a few days.

Ah that makes sense, didn't realize that's how it works.