Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed] • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by nitwit005 » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:06 AM UTC

kylecordes wrote: post #82

Previous, I thought the "he's trying to destroy Twitter along with a good chunk of his own fortune" idea was ludicrous. I assumed he was trying his best, in his own way, and would take a few months to rediscover how to run things. Eventually end up a good business, somewhat more Free than before. Now... not so sure. Anything's possible.

It just seems like he has poor emotional control, and perhaps emotionally he's fine with lashing out at Twitter itself.

He's already reversed multiple decisions on short notice, which makes it seem like the decision making would be better if he just thought about things for a day or two.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by mvkel » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:12 AM UTC

rufus_foreman wrote: post #540

mvkel wrote: post #173

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

>> It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to I have no idea what this means.

What I meant was if you were primarily on YouTube, you still had a Twitter.

On insta? You still had a Twitter.

LinkedIn? Twitter.

Blog/website? Twitter.

Everyone had a Twitter regardless of where their meat and potatoes content was.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by paulpauper » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:21 AM UTC

stanleydrew wrote: post #544

AJ007 wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The message over the past week has been pretty clear -- the rules change without notice and will be changed based on what pisses elon off. That make Twitter now a niche message board. All of the elaborate justifications and explanations for buying Twitter and what was going on wrong over there while it was public have been thrown out the window, no matter what your point of view was. The fact that this most recent on…

> Elon might be getting margin called on Tesla right now, which could wipe him out financially. I don't think this is how margin calls work. Presuming your broker is properly managing risk, then a margin call is explicitly designed to not wipe you out financially. You have to put up more capital or sell positions in order to maintain a certain amount of equity in your account, and that required amount is never zero (…

A margin call protects the broker/bank. The customer still loses everything.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by RavingGoat » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:22 AM UTC

thepasswordis wrote: post #710

threatofrain wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From official Twitter support: > We recognize that many of our users are active on other social media platforms. However, we will no longer allow free promotion of certain social media platforms on Twitter. > Specifically, we will remove accounts created solely for the purpose of promoting other social platforms and content that contains links or usernames for the following platforms: Facebook, Instagram, Mastodon, T…

LOTT doesn’t usually link to TT. They reupload the videos to twitter.

People should be filling out takedown notices.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by adharmad » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:27 AM UTC

LinuxBender wrote: post #891

Could it be this was all a publicity stunt to introduce and have welcomed the new CEO that Elon was going to put in place regardless? Am I giving him too much credit? i.e. Make people dislike him even more and then let the people of Twitter think they are voting him out?

Yes this is giving him too much credit, seeing what we see as his first hand actions.

Before he learns to play 3D or 4D chess, he needs to learn to play regular chess.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by sjs7007 » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:27 AM UTC

elgenie wrote: post #687

smrtinsert wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No mod of any other major social network issues site wide bans based on the mere mention of another social network.

The "reddit mod" the comment you're responding to would be one in charge of a particular subreddit, not of the entire network (the latter would be an "admin" in reddit parlance). A quick perusal of https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/ should be sufficient to understand that subreddit mods indeed do go on power trips of capricious banning, including for the grievous sin of mentioning a competing subreddit.

92 of 500 top sudreddits are moderated by same 5 people apparently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23173018

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by chimeracoder » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:28 AM UTC

themacguffinman wrote: post #788

jdiez17 wrote: post #547

Musk just tweeted that @paulg will be restored shortly: https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046164261149327... And “Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.” https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046168636732088... Edit: and now he’s asking if he should step down https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/16046176439731240...

@paulg's Twitter followers seem to have been wiped clean so his follower count is much lower now. Not really sure if that's part of the punishment or if that's an engineering failure.

> @paulg's Twitter followers seem to have been wiped clean so his follower count is much lower now. Not really sure if that's part of the punishment or if that's an engineering failure.

This happens every time an account is restored from deactivation (voluntary) or suspension. It takes time to rebuild the cache - usually a few hours, though with very large accounts it can take a few days.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by jakelazaroff » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:34 AM UTC

Aerroon wrote: post #907

srrr wrote: post #609

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The European Union Digital Markets Act, coming into effect in May 2023, explicitly forbids such behavior. (If twitter is classified as a "gatekeeper".) https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-... Example of the “don'ts” - Gatekeeper platforms may no longer: - treat services and products offered by the gatekeeper itself more favourably in ranking than similar services or products offered by third p…

So, platforms can't delete spam as long as the spam is a competitor? That's... interesting.

If someone follows me, that means they’ve affirmatively expressed interest in what I have to say. How is it “spam” for me to tell them how they can continue hearing from me?

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by javajosh » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:36 AM UTC

wereallterrrist wrote: post #767

roflyear wrote: post #660

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When people get duped, it's really hard for them to admit it. Huge blow to the ego. It's surprising to watch people turn on Trump because of this.

I just wish personal integrity mattered at any scale, anymore. I wish that people actually came to their opinions via some sort of logical process that could be easily later self-evaluated and reflected upon. There's this tendency to double-down, when "admitting a mistake" is really as simple as reflecting, realizing what assumptions were made wrong, going back to base principles and re-assessing. If you have integri…

>I just wish personal integrity mattered at any scale, anymore.

Interestingly in the legal system, accepting responsibility is "admission against interest", and actively warned against by counsel. There are some public figures who live and breath the lessons of an adversarial legal system. Self-reflection is reflexively rejected as having no possible upside, because any correction is an admission against interest. Such a mind has mutilated itself. That anyone finds such a mind attractive, worthy of emulation, is by far the most astonishing phenomena of my life.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by mhss » Mon, Dec 19, 2022, 2:43 AM UTC

d23 wrote: post #124

Musk is a tin pot tyrant and wannabe fascist requiring complete fealty from all his loyalists -- nothing else will suffice. How many more straws must break before his supporters will see this blindingly obvious truth?

How many straws did it take for Trump's supporters? oh, right ...