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Post by rainsford »

bbatchelder wrote: post #749
IOT_Apprentice wrote: post #604

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Paul was a big cheerleader for Elon. Touted his “skills” at Tesla & SpaceX. Elon kicks him off, because Dear Leader will not be criticized. Meanwhile Tesla is pile driving into the ground. I’m waiting for the FTC & the EU to weigh in on ALL of this puerile behavior by sham Tony Stark.

Elon is more Justin Hammer.

The best description I saw of Elon Musk is that he thinks he's Tony Stark, but he's actually Justin Hammer. Which to be fair, is the most Justin Hammer thing ever.

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Post by rideontime »

meshugga wrote: post #104

This is amazing. He basically said, he'd return if elon comes around, and wishes him the best. And just said "my mastodon is on my website". No violation of those new "TOS" of any kind. https://mas.to/@paulg seems to have been hugged to death already :)

And now he's talking about his kid's ideas for new Pokemon instead of Elon's BS. Seems like a nice place!

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Post by bentcorner »

sc68cal wrote: post #353
Fede_V wrote: post #109

I distinctly remember a prescient thread from Yishan Wong (former Reddit CEO) about how trying to run Twitter would break Musk - and - it looks like it was spot on. He paid 44 billion dollars to be a mod - I hope he is getting his money's worth.

https://twitter.com/yishan/status/1514938507407421440?s=20&t... For those curious

The interesting takeaway is that this means the mastodon migration is having a notable enough effect that Twitter is now blocking it.

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Post by sulam »

andromaton wrote: post #800
sillysaurusx wrote: post #594

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Paul’s unbanned now.

And it shows Paul is followed by 2857 people, following none. All this random minor chaos is a little saddening. Eggs have to be broken to make omelette. This looks like sloppy cooking.

This is common post ban, it's not as simple as a flag.

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Post by camjohnson26 »

britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

Here’s the link: https://mas.to/@paulg

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Post by wnevets »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #594
britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

Paul’s unbanned now.

Will everyone who argued that paulg broke the rules with his last tweet now admit they were wrong or will they now argue the unbanning isn't justified?

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Post by hackerlight »

cesarb wrote: post #248
jmoak3 wrote: post #197

He didn't link to his mastodon at all, did he? Twitter is one of the reasons I became an engineer - I was able to follow and see the mutterings of indie game devs in Copenhagen (vlambeer, if anyone knows them). 15 year old me responded the most inane things to their posts, but it exposed me to work ethics, communities, and possibilities in the computing world I never would have found growing up in Kentucky. I taught…

> He didn't link to his mastodon at all, did he? Very indirectly. He mentioned that his mastodon handle was at his site, which was linked in his twitter bio, and had said handle as the first line (excluding sidebars); only the handle, no links at all, but it's trivial to construct the link given that piece of information.

In the doxxing affair, Elon said any indirect links count as direct links because it's effectively the same thing and it's an attempt to do ban evasion. I assume he has the same mindset/rationale here.

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Post by Sebb767 »

dgudkov wrote: post #623
TillE wrote: post #375

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is kind of an institution, it really has been a de facto town square of the internet in a way that no other social media platform ever was. But it could die. The network effect works both ways, and if big accounts emigrate it's in real trouble.

And yet, lots of people in pre-Musk times said "Twitter is not a government body, it's a private company, it can ban whoever it wants to ban". Now these people are leaving in droves. I hope it's a good lesson for everybody that a private company can't be a de facto town square. An internet town square must be based on open protocols and, like an IRL town square, paid with taxpayers money. Otherwise, we're doomed to h…

> And yet, lots of people in pre-Musk times said "Twitter is not a government body, it's a private company, it can ban whoever it wants to ban". Now these people are leaving in droves.

Usually, this was followed by "and users are free to leave if they disagree". Nobody said you have to accept these decisions.

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Post by dm319 »

rainsford wrote: post #870
dm319 wrote: post #450

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> I don't buy into all the freedom of speech rhetoric he has been spewing. I think what you meant was you didn't buy into it, and this is proving your point of view. He's gone from freedom of speech absolutionist to defining the limits of freedom of speech by whether you discuss social interactions on other websites. It isn't as simple as a one-dimensional scale between freedom of speech absolutism and not, and the f…

As I said in another reply, I think a far simpler explanation is that the "freedom of speech absolutist" thing was total BS from the start. Other than describing himself that way, nothing about Elon suggests he's actually a big fan of free speech as a general principle.

I agree. At least now the conversion can move to "what are the limits of free speech and why?".

And I think anyone would be hard pushed to explain why journalists and people discussing other social media platforms should be a limit.

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Post by Tiktaalik »

rsanheim wrote: post #252
mvkel wrote: post #173

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

It isn't baffling at all. It was entirely predictable by looking at his past behavior. The thai cave diver incident and Elon's slander. The hyperloop failure. The continual empty promises of FSD for tesla. His attempts to manipulate the market thru his posts, which the SEC slapped his write for. Why would Elon take a first-principles approach, instead of the selfish, short-sighted approach of an insecure, lonely, ove…

I don't understand how anyone could look at everything Elon has done around the Boring Company and still think he's some sort of genius.
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