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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by ssnistfajen »

querulous wrote: post #528
the_duke wrote: post #367

No one seems to have mentioned the really interesting aspect here: Twitter must be bleeding DAUs. There are other indicators too. After the takeover they dropped the login wall, but it is back, and way more aggressive than before. You can't even scroll down to see more tweets now, or view replies. The ads are also really weird and odd. Either their ad targeting system is broken, or they just lost so many advertisers…

their entire ad backend is in a state of crisis. i have friends who were on the monetization (read: ads) teams at twitter and every single one of them has been asked/ordered to return to work if they want to collect their severance

That makes the whole layoff thing even more ridiculous. Turns out Twitter really did need that many people.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by DonHopkins »

monkeywork wrote: post #681
DonHopkins wrote: post #551

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it make any sense to spin up your own little Mastodon server just for you and your most trusted friends, so you don't have to spend any time moderating content?

Yes I wish we could have some sort of rule where you could never have more than 100 or so people per server and the community really really focused on making the deploy instructions as simple as possible for people to use with things like Oracles free tier, or the low cost VPS's out there. Mastodon instances with 10's of thousands of users is a TERRIBLE idea for the long term viability of the service.

My main concern isn't CPU performance, but that I don't want to spend any of my own time moderating, and just let on people and robots I trust, if anyone at all.

Sounds like it's easy to install on the cloud. Would it make sense to run it on a home server with a good broadband consumer internet connection like fiber?

Is there a lot of traffic normally, pushing or pulling or polling?

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Post by kibwen »

monkeywork wrote: post #681
DonHopkins wrote: post #551

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Does it make any sense to spin up your own little Mastodon server just for you and your most trusted friends, so you don't have to spend any time moderating content?

Yes I wish we could have some sort of rule where you could never have more than 100 or so people per server and the community really really focused on making the deploy instructions as simple as possible for people to use with things like Oracles free tier, or the low cost VPS's out there. Mastodon instances with 10's of thousands of users is a TERRIBLE idea for the long term viability of the service.

I agree that having enormous general "catch-all" servers will inevitably lead to low-quality cesspits (like Twitter). But topical mastodon instances are approximately federated subreddits, and subreddits can maintain reasonable quality even with 10,000 subscribers (but once you get much larger than that you start having problems).

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by doubleunplussed »

eCa wrote: post #566
riffraff wrote: post #281

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I think you miss the option that the moderation staff is a few (possibly incompetent) people in a sweat shop who just misunderstood what they're supposed to do, as everything is being don on a whim.

> misunderstood Unless pg’s account is re-instated within 12 hours I don’t think the moderation staff has misunderstood anything at all.

It has been reinstated

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by qqtt »

dmak wrote: post #592
querulous wrote: post #528

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their entire ad backend is in a state of crisis. i have friends who were on the monetization (read: ads) teams at twitter and every single one of them has been asked/ordered to return to work if they want to collect their severance

Whoa, is this possible? is this even legal?

When you hear about layoffs these days, you will usually see terms like "2 months of salary" as part of the severance package. What this actually is, is paying the employee throughout the entire "notice" period of the WARN Act. The WARN Act says that any company doing layoffs must give 60 days notice to employees, so to comply companies layoff employees but keep them on payroll for 2 months to meet the obligations of the law.

Technically, if the employee is still on payroll, the company is within it's rights to ask them to continue working, and violating company policy during this time (ie, not even showing up for work) could be grounds for regular termination which would not require any severance payments at all.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by EamonnMR »

hackernewds wrote: post #603
Hoyadonis wrote: post #42

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Not quite. This was his ultimate tweet: >This is my last straw. I give up. You can find a link to my new Mastodon profile on my site. The tweet itself did not contain a link to http://www.paulgraham.com/ , which contains a link to his Mastodon profile. Apparently that was enough to be suspended.

What was the last straw for PG?

New policy banning off site social links.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by RivieraKid »

roflyear wrote: post #766
RivieraKid wrote: post #158

Honestly it's hilarious to see the Elon worshippers turn against him. Paul Graham and Ryan Jones - check. Tim Urban, Andrej Karpathy, Sam Altman - no comment so far, but I suspect they're not on Elon team anymore. Lex Fridman - no chance, that guy would gladly follow him to grave.

Lex is a strange human. Seemingly smart, but also supportive of a lot of weird shit. Also he says he's neutral - but don't criticize Joe Rogan!! lol

Only seemingly.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by notafraudster »

xupybd wrote: post #724
minimaxir wrote: post #545

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Hijacking top comment to note Elon Musk has commented: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616426114932737 > Paul’s account will be restored shortly And https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1604616863673208832 > Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again.

> Going forward, there will be a vote for major policy changes. My apologies. Won’t happen again. I'm not sure a vote is the best option but it doesn't solve the problem either. There needs to be due process. You can't bring out a new policy and 5 mins later start banning accounts that have tweets older than the policy that also violate the policy. Elon is big on move fast and break things but I think he is going to…

One of the many reasons why "a vote" isn't a best option is that by "a vote", he means a poll he posts on his personal Twitter account and which is brigaded by lunatic Elon people. Moreover, Twitter laid off at least 80% of the experiments team last I checked (maybe 100% now?) and most of the other related research science people, so I highly doubt they even have a mechanism to do sample to population extrapolation or design a sample frame even if they wanted to. Completely embarrassing.
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