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What the heck subscription models are you using? In my experience the software gets broken over time and you can't do anything about it, including RUN THE OLD VERSION WHICH WORKED. There's no longer as much incentive for companies to improve because they'll get paid anyway instead of payment being contingent on actually delivering something useful. Yes subscription models are good for developers, no this doesn't make…
Not the OP, but I have to disagree too. Creative Cloud, IntelliJ, Figma, Google Workspace, Postman, Spotify, Vercel, Adguard, Google storage space, Alltrails, 1password.. They're all subscriptions and getting better all the time. Meanwhile it's the old purchased software like Windows and Office that get worse with every version.
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What the heck subscription models are you using? In my experience the software gets broken over time and you can't do anything about it, including RUN THE OLD VERSION WHICH WORKED. There's no longer as much incentive for companies to improve because they'll get paid anyway instead of payment being contingent on actually delivering something useful. Yes subscription models are good for developers, no this doesn't make…
Not the OP, but I have to disagree too. Creative Cloud, IntelliJ, Figma, Google Workspace, Postman, Spotify, Vercel, Adguard, Google storage space, Alltrails, 1password.. They're all subscriptions and getting better all the time. Meanwhile it's the old purchased software like Windows and Office that get worse with every version.
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You could consider https://kagi.com/ for a subscription-based, ad-free search. I've been using it for a few months and haven't had a case where the Google results were superior.
I tried Kagi for a couple of weeks and the results were painfully inferior to Google's. I was really hoping they'd be good.
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#314Richard Stallman tried to warn people about this https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-s... >. As usual, nobody heeded his warnings, and now we're all living through exactly what he tried to prevent.
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I'd rather just pay for the subscription, honestly. Especially in a bigger family or team / company context. To each their own.
I'd advise against it. Again, what many of us are saying is third party password managers are always a bad idea for fundamental reasons. Before, it was just the account owners and the site. Now there's a third party that has some kind of access, and that third party is a juicy target. Under what guarantee then? Why believe they are safe, especially since time has shown that many are not. It's dumb, and I will continu…
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#316(Also revenue. "I forgot to cancel the subscription" pays the bills like no other, see Comcast's revenue.")
Subscriptions have to be renewed, subscriptions send billing emails.
All of these things create more "daily active impressions." And in the attention economy, the more daily active impressions you have, the more your net promoter score rises (any publicity is good publicity).
The reason it's tiring is that humans have FINITE ATTENTION.
We're living in "the attention economy." Subscriptions are simply the latest strategy to monetize our attention.
The cure is to cleanse your email inbox of all "SaaS" emails like it's a Covid outbreak. And to be genuinely distrustful of all subscription products.
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> I saw too many software companies go out of business because not enough people wound up upgrading to the next major version Do you have examples? Most new businesses fail regardless of their business model, so you'd have to argue that this phenomenon was somehow worse for non-subs. > Not to mention that a yearly subscription is cheaper than buying outright Not in the long term.
Not going out of business, but on the iPad there is a drawing app called Procreate which is a one time purchase. It’s decent, but in the two years I’ve had it, nothing has really improved and there is a whole lot missing or to be desired. Meanwhile some subscription apps have come to the iPad and they are absolutely packed with every feature you could possibly want. For any well run company, the more the users are pa…
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Except as a user, the next version had to be better, or I wouldn't pay for it. Now they can just downgrade my product, and I have to continue paying for it.
Like what happened with Stronglifts 5x5.. yep.
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It may not be advisable, but tell that to the XP-for-life or 7-for-life people. It won't actually stop working, it just means you're much more vulnerable to malware.
It won't actually stop working, it just means you're much more vulnerable to malware. The biggest threats haven't come from direct external assaults on the OS for years. I expect a typical consumer device is more at risk from an out of date browser than any other type of vulnerability now. The biggest risk for most of us as personal users is someone stealing our data via a hack, which often doesn't require root/admin…
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#320Not really, because I saw too many software companies go out of business because not enough people wound up upgrading to the next major version -- the ownership model of software can be awfully feast-or-famine for developers' income, it's a very tough/risky business model. Generally speaking, I'm happy to pay a subscription because this way I get a steady stream of all the updates, and it's much more likely the compa…
In many ways, I feel much software needs to transition to "be maintained," very quickly.
So much engineering time and energy is spent releasing not very useful, incremental features.
Engineers... ironically, need to give up sooner in many cases.
The hubris of "the thing I make is genuinely useful, surely" is the profession's Pandora's box.
Pride is most dangerous sin etc etc.