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Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by Eji1700 »

stanleydrew wrote: post #544
AJ007 wrote: post #397

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The message over the past week has been pretty clear -- the rules change without notice and will be changed based on what pisses elon off. That make Twitter now a niche message board. All of the elaborate justifications and explanations for buying Twitter and what was going on wrong over there while it was public have been thrown out the window, no matter what your point of view was. The fact that this most recent on…

> Elon might be getting margin called on Tesla right now, which could wipe him out financially. I don't think this is how margin calls work. Presuming your broker is properly managing risk, then a margin call is explicitly designed to not wipe you out financially. You have to put up more capital or sell positions in order to maintain a certain amount of equity in your account, and that required amount is never zero (…

Depends on your definition of wiped out.

In order to get the loans for this he wound up putting up a ton of Tesla stock. He won’t be poor, but he could possibly lose control of Tesla and likely by extension things like space x.

He’ll likely never be poor but he’ll lose his relevance

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by barathr »

mschuster91 wrote: post #511
barathr wrote: post #444

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The good thing is that many of these things are now happening at mastodon, among other places.

Mastodon lacks one very important thing: global trends, the most important tool for minorities and the oppressed to call for attention. So many crimes got the spotlight because of that, and Mastodon by design can't replicate it.

Global trends are happening there nevertheless -- we've seen a few happen already.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by sillysaurusx »

BryantD wrote: post #525
srcreigh wrote: post #517

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Sorry for all those downvotes. I get people dislike Elon right now, and dislike the ban, but you are correct. I wish we would seek understanding instead of trying to… promote misunderstanding and silence people who point it out?

It tells me that I leaned a bit too far into being neutral and wasn’t clear that I think the ban is ridiculous! Good corrective feedback for me.

You shouldn’t need to be clear about that, or worry about being neutral. Don’t let a crowd do your thinking for you.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by srcreigh »

SoftTalker wrote: post #464

I have two questions: 1) What happened to "it's a private platform, they can do what they want?" 2) Does anyone think Musk bought Twitter to deliberately destroy it?

1) still true. And I for one think Elon’s utter transparency if all his flaws and explicit policy about sharing competitors is categorically better than the vague policy games and hidden algo promotions that nearly every other site runs.

You may not like Twitters rules, but at least you are allowed to have an opinion since it’s all out in the open. Contradictions and all. It’s an easy target.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by ericmay »

JulianMorrison wrote: post #524
justapassenger wrote: post #485

TBH, I have 0 sympathy for PG. he was excusing Elon’s Twitter actions, with roughly “he lands rockets, and you don’t, so he knows what he’s doing”. He only has an issues with him when he’s personally affected? Cool.

He employs rocket scientists. And also, I hear, a layer of glad-handing management dedicated to keeping him from putting his thumb in the rocket scientist pie, patting him on the head for his cockamamie ideas, and faking up Potemkin demonstrations to keep him happy.

Anyone can employee rocket scientists

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Post by romwell »

BryantD wrote: post #404
meshugga wrote: post #227

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Having a personal website with contact information is not URL cloaking or plaintext onfuscation. Those TOS are ludicrous to begin with, but are not by any reasonable understanding written to say that you can not have a personal website with other social media.

Sure, you can have a personal website with links to other social media. You just can’t advertise that fact on Twitter. “We will remove any free promotion of prohibited 3rd-party social media platforms.” I don’t see how “I have an account on Mastodon and here’s how you can find it” doesn’t violate that. The policy doesn’t require the promotion to be direct. If there was any doubt, the policy explicitly includes linktr…

The policy says:

>At both the Tweet level and the account level, we will remove any free promotion of prohibited 3rd-party social media platforms, *such as linking out (i.e. using URLs) to any of the below platforms on Twitter*, or *providing your handle without a URL*

Notice that *all* definitions and examples of "promotion" specifically involve having your URL or username in a tweet.

The "non-technical means" of bypassing policy are still about communicating the username in a tweet.

It is a ludicrous policy, but alleging that it prohibits even mentioning existence of other accounts is a ludicrous interpretation of the ludicrous policy.

"You can find my contact info on my website" is a violation under this interpretation.

As is stating "Twitter isn't the only way to reach me"... and having any off-twitter links (God forbid your FB account is reachable via some sequence of clicks from there!).

So much for the "free speech absolutist" though.

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Post by Eji1700 »

wereallterrrist wrote: post #421
mvkel wrote: post #173

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33991851 Why is it so plainly obvious to many of us and so god damn impossible for others to see it. Elon is not a genius. You got duped. Just accept it and realize he's a petty tyrant whose ego is exploding. It explains every single thing that has happened, and yet people are so desperate not to accept it.

He’s a less self aware Steve Jobs. For whatever reason people will throw themselves on the tracks for them.

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Post by steve_adams_86 »

hackernewds wrote: post #334
threatofrain wrote: post #249

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No, it's not clearly a violation. From Elon Musk: > Casually sharing occasional links is fine, but no more relentless advertising of competitors for free, which is absurd in the extreme. That was very casual and not at all an example of relentless advertising for competitors. It's also extremely dubious that PG was trying to evade Twitter enforcement.

So you can incite and insurrection or be antisemitic and be reinstated, but you can't post a link to a competitor. These rules are arbitrary - Twitter is an absolute clown show now

Exactly my thought. This almost seems like satire. Is there supposed to be a joke in here or is Elon operating in all sincerity here?

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Post by jacquesm »

DonHopkins wrote: post #551
cesarb wrote: post #174

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> https://mas.to/@paulg seems to have been hugged to death already :) You can watch the account in your own instance (if someone on your instance has already followed him, which is likely for larger instances). Just go to https://example.org/@paulg@mas.to (replace the domain with your favorite instance's domain). (Edit: fixed typo)

Does it make any sense to spin up your own little Mastodon server just for you and your most trusted friends, so you don't have to spend any time moderating content?

If you're going down that road count me in, I'll chip in for expenses as well, obviously.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by hackernewds »

halfmatthalfcat wrote: post #519
consumer451 wrote: post #478

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> despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup I wasn't sure that you were serious, but lo and behold... https://imgur.com/a/kyoI2X6 picture was posted by: Chief of Public Affairs - Air Force/Space Force (prior position: Space Force 45th Space Launch Delta Media Relations Chief)*PERSONAL ACCOUNT-OPINIONS ARE MY OWN

With Jared Kushner right next to him? Man the Monkey’s Paw is fully clenched.

This is where the value of Twitter is. Not in the money, it's in the DMs.

Twitter for Elon, is power not money. Watch it be a massive force for influence campaigns by 2024.

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