Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed] • Hacker News Board

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by jeffbee » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

rsanheim wrote: post #252

mvkel wrote: post #173

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

It isn't baffling at all. It was entirely predictable by looking at his past behavior. The thai cave diver incident and Elon's slander. The hyperloop failure. The continual empty promises of FSD for tesla. His attempts to manipulate the market thru his posts, which the SEC slapped his write for. Why would Elon take a first-principles approach, instead of the selfish, short-sighted approach of an insecure, lonely, ove…

Unfortunately there's not some kind of reward for spotting Musk for the person he really is at first glance.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by seydor » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

SilverBirch wrote: post #134

There's kind of three options here: * Elon is personally policing twitter, and has banned PG in a fit of pique, despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup * Twitter's staff are just being crazy over the top with bannings - this might actually be the most likely. It's kind of obvious that Twitter has some automated systems that suspend accounts when they get mass reported, and some people with a sense of…

Or maybe said employees are trying to get themselves fired?

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by dym_sh » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

dbish wrote: post #113

teddyh wrote: post #5

For those who missed it, his Mastodon is: https://mas.to/@paulg

Mastadon UX is really frustrating. Hoping there's a better option for following him in the near future

which exact part is frustrating?

there are some additional twitter-like mobile clients, i.e.

- https://www.macrumors.com/2022/11/29/tapbots-ivory-mastodon-...

which supposedly fix the difference

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by alfiedotwtf » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

Twitter to me started to feel like you were at a party having a good time, but then the host had too many drinks and started vomiting on the floor. But because it was his house, anyone who tried to help would be yelled at because it was HIS house and HE was having a good time.

At what point does every right-minded person just nope the situation and leave because they don't want to be that person left cleaning up for an asshole.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by BulgarianIdiot » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

mvkel wrote: post #173

It's baffling to me that Elon seems to be taking the opposite of a first-principles view on Twitter. He fails to realize _why_ Twitter uniquely has the reach that it does. It's because it's platform-agnostic in a lot of ways. It's the base-level social protocol that all other platforms are adjacent to. By removing that connection, it completely nerfs that influence and Twitter becomes just another social network. I a…

His first principles seem be to get what he wants through brute force. He'll realize that he doesn't have the brute force to control the online communication of 450 million people.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by chipgap98 » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

ajross wrote: post #76

britneybitch wrote: post #18

Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.

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Musk shouldn't be involved personally in any suspension decisions. That's a huge part of the problem

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by inferiorhuman » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

BryantD wrote: post #207

meshugga wrote: post #104

This is amazing. He basically said, he'd return if elon comes around, and wishes him the best. And just said "my mastodon is on my website". No violation of those new "TOS" of any kind. https://mas.to/@paulg seems to have been hugged to death already :)

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"Sorry to be a free speech absolutist." - das Muskrat

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1499976967105433600

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by shadowgovt » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

meshugga wrote: post #115

garbagetime wrote: post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You are wrong about what PG said. In fact, his Tweet included an explanation of where to find a link to his Mastodon account. Elon has made it clear that these blatant attempts at ban evasion are not allowed.

It's not what the TOS say though.

I don't think it's worth getting hung up on what the TOS say.

Twitter is Musk's fiefdom now and the rules are what he decides they are. Letter of the law is worthless here; it's will-of-the-baron rules.

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by richbell » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

watwut wrote: post #216

SilverBirch wrote: post #134

There's kind of three options here: * Elon is personally policing twitter, and has banned PG in a fit of pique, despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup * Twitter's staff are just being crazy over the top with bannings - this might actually be the most likely. It's kind of obvious that Twitter has some automated systems that suspend accounts when they get mass reported, and some people with a sense of…

Musk personally policing twitter is pretty obvious for, like, last month or more. He personally picks accounts to restore and accounts to close. And there are very clear patterns in both. Including him announcing some of these on Twitter.

Someone does something Elon doesn't like, magically the next day there's a rule against it that's arbitrarily defined and enforced, even if it contradicts something Elon has said in the past.

Like revealing a "bombshell" that Twitter was shadow banning users... only to then shadow ban the @ElonJet account.

https://archive.ph/jhJHd

Re: Twitter suspends pg's account [fixed]

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Post by d23 » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:47 PM UTC

easygenes wrote: post #223

Slight tangent: What is going on with the HN post ranking system? This post is showing in rank 2 with over 400 points while being submitted under an hour ago, while the IRS post at number one right now has barely over 100 points and was submitted over an hour ago. This post is both fresher and with more overall points, shouldn’t it outrank?

I think it tries to downrank "controversial" posts. I assume this thread has a lot of downvotes from people who support him. I do wish that wasn't the case. This stuff is directly related to the industry.