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Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#221
As a customer, I do hate subscription for everything...

But as an entrepreneur, I think subscription revenue is a good business model to support the ongoing development of a business.

To find a balance, I don't think it's necessary to make monthly subscription a default option. Daily or even hourly subscription could also work - https://www.listennotes.com/blog/instead-of-monthly-billing-...

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#222
Yes, oh my goodness. And it's not just software--I've been feeling this pretty acutely while holiday shopping. Have lost way too much time funneled and sidetracked onto subscription-only "box" sites.

And I just got dark-pattern-suckered into a nakedwines.com subscription...

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#223

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At least it doesn't say you must buy a new computer to update :)

Well on my older 4770 PC, Windows doesn't bug me to upgrade to 11, since it knows it can't.

It bugs me anyway where it can't (I have a couple of games that refuse running on linux)

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#225

I only wish my subscriptions would auto pause or cancel when i stop using them actively. Of course that's the whole point of the subscription model, they want you to set and forget.

That's one thing I really like about subscribing for services and news through Amazon or Apple, it's so much easier to cancel or pause the subscription when I want and I've never had a gigantic price hike without warning (looking at you, McClatchy...).

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#226
Yes and no. I'd rather pay ongoing costs for something that has ongoing costs (even if that's just paying some dude to create features I don't want) rather than have it be ad supported.

Having thought on it a small amount, I know as a software creator I'd rather fleece a sheep many times over than skin him once.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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It can go both ways. Upgrades: Plus: Must be compelling so they must come up with new features Minus: Sometimes those new features are bad. Subscriptions: Plus: Keep it working on new OS versions Minus: No compelling reason to add anything.

I've never really seen a subscription program stagnate in practice. In fact I find that subscriptions allow companies to detach revenue from feature planning and deliver useful features rather than shiny new UIs.

If revenue is not attached to feature planning, how are users going to influence what features get developed?

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

#229
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But what you're really asking is how can you share them conveniently and quickly. Maybe the answer is, you can't. Write them down, text each other, call each other and read it over the phone. Making a spare key for my parents to get in my house isn't "click a button easy," I have to go to the hardware store -- and maybe THAT'S the appropriate level of difficulty.

I'd rather just pay for the subscription, honestly. Especially in a bigger family or team / company context. To each their own.

I'd advise against it.

Again, what many of us are saying is third party password managers are always a bad idea for fundamental reasons. Before, it was just the account owners and the site. Now there's a third party that has some kind of access, and that third party is a juicy target.

Under what guarantee then? Why believe they are safe, especially since time has shown that many are not.

It's dumb, and I will continue to maintain that it's dumb right up until one of these companies offers indemnifcation or some other serious grown-up guarantee.

I will pay for your service if and only if you pay me if/when you mess up.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone tired of everything being a subscription now?

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> why a password manager should be a SaaS While I fully agree with you, how do you sync passwords across my 3 laptops and 3 phones without a SaaS offering? While I don't use this feature, but it is common for ppl to share an account. How can I securely share credentials with family members?

Don't. Sharing a Netflix account with your family is easy. Send it in the whatsapp group if you need to change the password or something -- how often are you going to do that in your life? Not enough to justify handing over all of your password to a 3rd party and paying them money for it. Anything more important than a Netflix account you don't share at all. If they need access, just call them.

> how often are you going to do that in your life?

Small startups use password sharing tools to share passwords with new employees (think db passwords or other saas accounts). This happens at least a once per month in a 10 person organization.

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