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#162Previous threads in this sequence:
Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34041985
Promotion of alternative social platforms policy - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34040165
I moved 34041985 off the front page, partly because these are more or less the same story, but mostly because the traffic on this is boiling our poor server and I need to resort to tricks. Sorry all!
In case you're not aware: you need to click on the "more comments" links at the bottom of the pages to get to the rest of the thread; also, you can make HN faster by logging out when it's keeling over. (Make sure you know your password and/or have a usable email address in your profile before logging out!) Also, performance improvements shouldn't be too far off now... but not today.
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#164It’s getting really hard for Musk supporters to justify him.
I wish, but it doesn't seem to be the case. Elsewhere in this thread:
> What do you all think would happen if you walked into Safeway parading around with a sign saying "Shop at Ralph's"?
It's honestly sad. It's like these people have nothing. Musk has taken advantage of that and given them meaning, but he is debasing and humiliating them in the process. And I assume he enjoys watching people still come to his defense despite nakedly lying to them and manipulating them.
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I had hopes. Twitter was terribly run and there was all sorts of examples of them being a typical social media platform trying to push various ideas using their control. Elon could have come in, aligned the website to be a lot more neutral, slimmed down the employee count and pushed for more features and more payments for features to get away from dependence on advertisers. I saw some headline a few weeks ago about J…
the fact that you thought the site wasn’t already neutral but just overwhelmed with content reports and that it is simply impossible to fairly moderate is a good indication you’re being duped in other areas, fyi
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#166For those who missed it, his Mastodon is: https://mas.to/@paulg
It's amazing Mastodon is still so utterly disaster. Where are all the startups? Why is making Twitter clone so hard?
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#168There's kind of three options here: * Elon is personally policing twitter, and has banned PG in a fit of pique, despite literally being at a party in Doha the world cup * Twitter's staff are just being crazy over the top with bannings - this might actually be the most likely. It's kind of obvious that Twitter has some automated systems that suspend accounts when they get mass reported, and some people with a sense of…
He is pretty clearly personally policing Twitter. The extent is unclear, but he is clearly doing at least some of it.
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#169Twitter is not an institution. It is not a utility. People can just leave and go to another website. It will take time for a new website or websites to figure things out at scale, both technologically and socially. But people were patient with twitter in the fail whale days and I assume they'll be patient with another service in the future.
This guy is running twitter like it's his personal website. Which, it is. But people prefer services offered by businesses instead of individuals, because businesses have stable incentive structures and fiduciary responsibilities. No one likes it when the rules change arbitrarily every week, so businesses don't do that.
This level of chaos just isn't sustainable. I would never have thought that twitter could lose a significant portion of its user base in a short period. But that could very well happen now, and it's crazy.
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#170Wow. PG did not even post any links, he pretty much just said "I have a Mastodon account." And just like that, banned. Looks like now you're not allowed to so much as mention that you use other websites on the internet besides Twitter.
You are wrong about what PG said. In fact, his Tweet included an explanation of where to find a link to his Mastodon account. Elon has made it clear that these blatant attempts at ban evasion are not allowed.
The TOS says any accounts that primarily focus on promotion of competitors will be banned, which, hm, but anyways. I think it’s obvious PG’s account was not primarily focused on links to other socials, so on to the next condition.
The TOS also says any accounts which post a direct link to such sites will be found in violation.
It does not say anything about purely mentioning the fact you have another social media (especially without saying the username), nor linking to a personal website, nor does it say anything about referring to where to find such a thing