Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

Post by ssnistfajen » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:15 PM UTC

systemvoltage wrote: post #697

r_hoods_ghost wrote: post #491

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Not a villain? Well he's utterly screwed his employees and broken employment law in multiple countries by not giving proper notice or consulting on redundancies, but hey who gives a shit about workers rights? Not you obviously.

I am fine with this actually. It is not Amazon warehouse workers we are talking about. These people were highly paid and Twitter seems to run just fine without them. FAANG can probably get rid of 70% of the bloat. Elon did give them 3 months severence which is quite amazing.

Post by Lich » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:15 PM UTC

systemvoltage wrote: post #697

r_hoods_ghost wrote: post #491

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not a villain? Well he's utterly screwed his employees and broken employment law in multiple countries by not giving proper notice or consulting on redundancies, but hey who gives a shit about workers rights? Not you obviously.

I am fine with this actually. It is not Amazon warehouse workers we are talking about. These people were highly paid and Twitter seems to run just fine without them. FAANG can probably get rid of 70% of the bloat. Elon did give them 3 months severence which is quite amazing.

Post by DoreenMichele » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:16 PM UTC

jacquesm wrote: post #603

dragonwriter wrote: post #598

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> A reputation is not like a piece of software that you fix and then re-run as though it never broke in the first place In a way it is, but it differs from software in that fixing it involves more than reverting the action by which you broke it.

Any good examples? 'Reputation is like a crystal vase, you can drop it, and glue it back together again but it will never again be the same vase that it was before you dropped it'.

Post by LegitShady » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:16 PM UTC

mcv wrote: post #658

pg wrote: post #350

I'm not leaving Twitter. It seems more likely than not that Elon will reverse the ban on links to other social media sites. I just don't want to hang out there in the meantime. Plus given the way things are going, it seemed like a good time to learn about alternatives. I still think Elon is a smart guy. His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. Nor do I think he's the villain a lot of people try to make him out…

> His work on cars and rockets speaks for itself. I used to think that too, but I've since come across a story that SpaceX actually has people who's informal job is to manage him, and they present their ideas in such a way that he thinks they're his, in order to keep him happy. He's mostly there to bring money and hype. No idea if that story is true, but honestly, it would explain some things. The impression he's bee…

Post by mccorrinall » Sun, Dec 18, 2022, 10:17 PM UTC

waprin wrote: post #520

jacquesm wrote: post #432

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Fair enough. I don't think he will be able to salvage this and I've deleted my account to reduce the temptation to return. A reputation is not like a piece of software that you fix and then re-run as though it never broke in the first place. Elon has utterly wrecked his reputation over the last couple of months (and probably longer than that) and it is getting worse, not better. Edit: I guess Paul won't be going back…

Well said, good analogy. There’s the immediate issues of the policy. But there’s the bigger issue of the thought process that led to the policy. One of Elons central criticism of old Twitter management was unfair content moderation policy. And almost immediately he enacts a far worse content policy than anything old management did, in a brazen display of hypocrisy. Even if he reverses course on this one issue, he’s d…