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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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It's interesting to see these tech influencers and their lag time on giving Elon the benefit of the doubt before they've had enough. Will Elon ever have a "coming to jesus moment" and realize that he's alienated so many of his peers that he is, in fact, in the wrong? Or is he so delusional that he really does believe he has the answers?

The internet has a short memory. No one's going to care in 6 months and everyone will be back on twitter.

I highly doubt that.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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post #321

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> Your best bet is some of the bigger second-tier servers. Until they get overloaded, and face the same issues as the "first tier" ones... I know that what I am about to say is out of personal interest, but I really wish people took the analogy to email servers more seriously and started looking at commercial providers. I'm offering Mastodon services for about $0.50/user/month [0], and I have the infra to host 20-30k…

Is there a way for me to export if I decide to self host later? I don't have the time to set up a Mastodon server right now, but part of the appeal of Mastodon is having more control over my data.

Yes, you can export your data to any new server and you can even redirect your followers to your new identity. You´d only have trouble if the instance admin blocks your account before you get to do any of that, but for anything like that to happen you'd have to have done something truly egregious and/or your admin is one shitty, petty person.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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post #11

This is his Mastodon account: https://mas.to/@paulg/with_replies His first toots remind me of his first tweets: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22300310058 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22307238459

Gave up after 20 seconds waiting for the website to load. Is that supposed to be some retro 90s experience?

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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post #220

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Elon is undoubtedly smart. It also seems like maybe he's on a mental health episode or just got so rich he decided he's done with building companies and just wants to be an asshole out of spite. Who knows? But he's accomplished plenty of things that suggest he's not an idiot.

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do morons get accepted into Stanford's STEM PhD programs? You can hate Musk for his personality and maybe say he has mental health issues but to say he's stupid seems strange

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Why is that amazing? When people do what you think is right, or what you think might be right, you agree with them or willing to see where things go. When people do what you think is wrong you disagree or break with them. That seems perfectly reasonable.

> Why is that amazing? PG mocked those who thought we would end up here.

PG confuses me. Sometimes he seems extremely rational but other times he tweets obvious fallacies.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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He could have bought parler, truth or whatever for far less and already been closer to his goal.

Twitter was/remains? a geopolitical & cultural instrument. The precise reason why there is a fight over who gets to say what on Twitter is because it is a powerful platform for propaganda and agitprop. You can organize uprisings on Twitter. That is why it is such a hot potato. (It is not about utility. think Payless vs Prada.) Elon apparently bet on the fact that the establishment could not stomach the idea of recons…

> Twitter was/remains? a geopolitical & cultural instrument.

Give it a while.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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post #186

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> Twitter's business model is advertising That's true but as I've learned here on HN, that wasn't working very well already and Twitter was just an afterthought for the large advertisers. Twitter wasn't huge money maker. That's something that he can change, this is not something fundamental about the product.

Yeah, but he's making it even worse. Now one might argue that Musk wants to ignore advertisers entirely and target the actual users. That could be an interesting thing to try. But when why is he naming and shaming and whining about advertisers? If he decided to change business models, then it doesn't matter whether Apple advertises. If he's aiming to profit from the users, he's also doing it wrong by bringing back al…

> But when why is he naming and shaming and whining about advertisers? If he decided to change business models, then it doesn't matter whether Apple advertises.

So far he sucks at managing a community and apparently doesn't understand the business he got it. Can he get his understanding to a point where he doesn't screw up every time and gets some sizeable wins? I don't know, I think it's not impossible and I think he is trying hard. But maybe before he gets on track for success, he will need to distance himself from the alt-right folks because as I see it they have completely different agenda and it's not their money and reputation on the line so they fight their ridiculous culture wars in their fantasy world and if Musk keeps feeding himself from these people He won't get real signals, real feedback and won't be able to correct course.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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There’s an old adage about never meeting your heroes that applies well to PG. Some of his daily takes were so embarrassing and insipid that it was hard to maintain respect. It’s funny because his long form posts which are often insightful were likely reviewed/edited by a third person. A concept he has actually said only exists in the modern commercial publishing era.

I've met PG at a book signing and he was quite pleasant. I asked about when Arc would be released (this was a while back) and he laughed and joked about it. Really nice guy. Do you really think twitter equates to meeting someone?

> Do you really think twitter equates to meeting someone?

I think you learn more about a person through Twitter than meeting them since for better or worse people drop the polite, professional veneer that normally associates face to face meetings.

It showcases (a) what concerns them so much they have to Tweet about it, (b) what their values are, (c) how they read situations, (d) how they treat people etc.

It's weirdly like you're watching them perform in some scientific experiment and seeing how they react to different stimuli.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

#410
post #78

It's interesting to see these tech influencers and their lag time on giving Elon the benefit of the doubt before they've had enough. Will Elon ever have a "coming to jesus moment" and realize that he's alienated so many of his peers that he is, in fact, in the wrong? Or is he so delusional that he really does believe he has the answers?

Musk seems to be speedrunning into Howard Hughes status. He has so much wealth that, like Hughes, he could alienate every business contact and still spend the rest of his life making leftfield investments and watching movies naked in a dark hotel room. (Well, replace watching movies with tweeting, I suppose.)

With the bigotry and cars I tend to think Ford, not Hughes.
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