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Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

Right? Mass random firings of employees in multiple incompetent waves, blocking and expelling journalists and activists, re-enabling known hate-speech accounts, walking out of press conferences when questioned, spreading QAnon adjacent conspiracy theories... none of this annoyed Paul Graham enough to leave.. and in fact he defended the guy...

But blocking links to Mastodon? That makes him leave? Like, uh, fine, but... maybe he could have not mocked us for pointing out the dysfunction weeks and weeks ago?

Between all the crypto implosions happening and this, wealthy Silicon Valley investor types and their hanger-ons are really having a "moment" these past few months. Sheesh.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by bestcoder69 »

shadowgovt wrote: post #35
thinking4real wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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Flip the script: what evidence do we have that he's smarter than eight billion people?

Hm on the one hand we have survivorship bias, plus the fact that capital accumulates more capital near-automatically at some point, as well as his relative lack of qualms with committing fraud (that he's gotten lucky about going un/under-punished).

But on the other hand, he built some impressive companies, he is the richest person in the world, and he has a lot of gumption, y'know?

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by input_sh »

anticristi wrote: post #28

> Twitter will no longer allow free promotion of specific social media platforms I can foresee that Twitter Orange will be launched next week, which for 8$/month allows you to link to other social media platforms. On a more serious tone, does anyone know if this is legal in the EU, given the recent Digital Services Act?

It's absolutely not compatible with Digital Services Act: https://commission.europa.eu/strategy-and-policy/priorities-...

> Example of the “don'ts” - Gatekeeper platforms may no longer:

> treat services and products offered by the gatekeeper itself more favourably in ranking than similar services or products offered by third parties on the gatekeeper's platform

> prevent consumers from linking up to businesses outside their platforms

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by BryantD »

ajross wrote: post #71
belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

OK, but to be fair[1], that's what we want, right? Our thought leaders should change their minds when they turn out to have been wrong, and correct. pg is doing good here, and that needs to be celebrated and not mocked. We all get stuff mixed up. [1] And for the record I think pg indeed ignored WAY too many red flags for WAY too long in this particular case.

Absolutely. I'm glad to see this.

If I was a friend of his, I'd suggest that it's a good chance to think about why he was convinced Elon would do well and adjust as necessary, but it's also quite possible that he doesn't feel like he's obliged to do that self-examination in public. And he's not.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by threeseed »

belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

Some of those people especially the YC alumni need to be upfront about whether they’ve invested in Musk’s Twitter. Because direct questions have been asked without answer.

Because otherwise I can not understand the logic behind defending Musk’s reign as CEO. Ignoring the chaotic policy changes what bothers me is the treatment of Twitter’s employees. Nobody should ever have to leave their house because of death threats. And surely Parag/Jack should be ultimately held accountable for what happened at the company under their reign.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by Pxtl »

yunohn wrote: post #23
TekMol wrote: post #11

This is his Mastodon account: https://mas.to/@paulg/with_replies His first toots remind me of his first tweets: https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22300310058 https://twitter.com/paulg/status/22307238459

First time I’m using Mastodon, and it’s incredibly slow. Is the app any faster than the web app?

Mastodon is getting slammed by the twitter exodus, this is the first time it's being truly tested.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by xcambar »

dnissley wrote: post #63
belligeront wrote: post #15

Amazing that just a month ago he tweeted[1]: "It's remarkable how many people who've never run any kind of company think they know how to run a tech company better than someone who's run Tesla and SpaceX.". It's been fascinating watching so many VC types ignore so many red flags just because some of Elon's early actions validated their priors (e.g. tech companies are bloated and need to layoff staff). [1] https://twi…

When I disagree with someone, I do not necessarily think they're stupid. That's a needlessly polarizing mindset.

You're a rare person, in 2022.

Re: Paul Graham is leaving Twitter for now

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Post by DiNovi »

zzzeek wrote: post #39
DiNovi wrote: post #18

Paul is an out of touch reactionary billionaire. when you’ve lost your own, maybe it’s time to acknowledge you don’t know what you’re doing

> Paul is an out of touch reactionary billionaire. Elon Musk is billionaire reactionary distilled into its purest form. I mean the guy is literally spending 100% of his time reacting to things he doesn't personally like.

i know the brain poison social media gives us all… it’s wild to see
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