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Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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I read though the suggestions. So "trigger warning" is now problematic and the proper alternative is "content note". And "Preferred pronouns" is hate speech, because you imply that pronouns are merely a preference, as if the person can choose their identity. Godspeed.

In another 10 years, a good chunk of their current "Consider using" suggestions will also be "problematic"

Retarded people like to come up with a new word for retarded people all the time. It’s retarded.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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> Instead of "blind review", consider using "anonymous review". Context: Unintentionally perpetuates that disability is somehow abnormal or negative, furthering an ableist culture. But.. disability is abnormal and negative? How tortured of a definition of 'normal' must one use to make blindness normal? And I suspect if the author of that sentence were offered, say, $100,000 to undergo a painless but irreversible blin…

The people pushing these language initiatives are the obnoxious and worthless hall-monitor types no one likes to work or speak with. The ones who never do anything productive in the organization they find themselves in because they’re too busy trying to mount moral crusades.

We’ll see less of this as shops and institutions find the need to focus on ROI, products, innovation, and shareholders once again now that the fairytale of free money and unlimited free labor is expiring. The people who do the actual work to build and teach and innovate at the periphery of their chosen industry will devour the hall monitors.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

#143

Is this initiative being evaluated for inclusivity of people with language processing conditions, including autism spectrum disorder, to make sure it doesn't cause discriminatory strain on these folks?

Can you explain this a bit more or give an example? I'm curious about this.

It is like requiring people to jog at the job, and then say that being wheelchair bound isn't an excuse to skip the jogging exercise. Some people have a much harder time with abstractions and words, they have learned the ones on the left, remapping all of that to the words on the right is a ton of work and maybe some of them will never manage to do it.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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I mean, if you ever wanted to get on the bandwagon of why we have so many college administrators responsible for raising the cost of college and creating work for themselves by stoking culture wars, just read through the list on that page. ------- "> Instead of: Philippine Islands > Consider using: Philippines or the Republic of the Philippines > Context: The term is politically incorrect and denotes colonialism. Som…

>>Consider using: demanding or entitled White woman

It's insane that this is one of the most explicitly racist examples and it's in the "Consider using" column...

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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The inclusion of "Hispanic => Latinx" is staggering because: - The vast majority of Hispanic people don't like "Latinx" - "Latinx" was invented to avoid gendered words like "Latino", and "Hispanic" isn't gendered - It's listed under "imprecise language", but "Latinx" isn't any more precise. It's so ironic that "colonialism" has now come to mean anything progressive academics don't like, but telling a minority group w…

Also note that Latino is a Spanish word, Latinx is obviously an English word. So we have non Latino white people telling Latinos to use an English word to refer to themselves Definitely no colonial undertone to this dynamic whatsoever

Latinx is not even an English word, it is a made-up word. It is not language evolution but an attempt at language revolution which fortunately seems to have failed thus far. May it keep on failing and may it - and the multitude of other attempts - serve as a warning that Newspeak better remain in the dystopic novels from which it often seems to originate.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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post #77

The inclusion of "Hispanic => Latinx" is staggering because: - The vast majority of Hispanic people don't like "Latinx" - "Latinx" was invented to avoid gendered words like "Latino", and "Hispanic" isn't gendered - It's listed under "imprecise language", but "Latinx" isn't any more precise. It's so ironic that "colonialism" has now come to mean anything progressive academics don't like, but telling a minority group w…

I've seen Latinx used by US universities and Fortune 500 companies, but not really used by the people I know. It may be different in more affluent or academic circles though.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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post #77

The inclusion of "Hispanic => Latinx" is staggering because: - The vast majority of Hispanic people don't like "Latinx" - "Latinx" was invented to avoid gendered words like "Latino", and "Hispanic" isn't gendered - It's listed under "imprecise language", but "Latinx" isn't any more precise. It's so ironic that "colonialism" has now come to mean anything progressive academics don't like, but telling a minority group w…

The kicker for me is if we want to anglicize Spanish because we know better than them... we could just say Latin! It's already a word! But it doesn't come with ingroup signaling and so here we are..

When you read Latinx in Spanish it reads as "Latín Equis".

"Equis" is a word we use when talking about something or someone irrelevant. Like the x in an algebra formula.

https://www.wordreference.com/es/en/translation.asp?spen=equ...

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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post #77

The inclusion of "Hispanic => Latinx" is staggering because: - The vast majority of Hispanic people don't like "Latinx" - "Latinx" was invented to avoid gendered words like "Latino", and "Hispanic" isn't gendered - It's listed under "imprecise language", but "Latinx" isn't any more precise. It's so ironic that "colonialism" has now come to mean anything progressive academics don't like, but telling a minority group w…

I heard a member of the Lantinx community say they hate the term Latinx because X literally difficult to say in Spanish lol, it’s like Latin-ehkess not latin-ex

X is read as "Equis". And Equis is a word some Latin American countries used as a synonym for irrelevant/whatever/not important.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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Are humans no longer capable of recognizing context? How is "he mastered the material in the lecture" invoking centuries of internalized slavery and causing harm in the process?

It’s not. What we are witnessing is the last gasp of an unproductive class of hall monitors and moral busybodies trying to control everyone else and appear productive and enlightened while doing it.
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