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Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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Some of these suggestions are so euphemistic I wouldn't necessarily know what someone using them is trying to say... Plenty of cases where the client isn't actually the user, plenty of cases where saying something is "surprising" doesn't give the same subtext as saying something is "insane..." and that's just scratching the surface. GF is 100% Mexican descent, first gen US citizen, w/ advanced degree and she despises…

> GF is 100% Mexican descent, first gen US citizen, w/ advanced degree and she despises Latinx as a term (can't even pronounce it in Spanish she says). I mean, the whole """Latinx""" thing is just non Latino whites replacing a Spanish word (Latino) with an English word, then telling the demographic it refers to to use this English word to refer to themselves I have no idea how this dynamic doesn't manage to piss off…

Spanish words ending in "o" are, by default, inclusive. For centuries, it has been a linguistic idiom (not just in Spanish) that references to mixed-sex groups of people are done in the masculine. Women understood this perfectly and were not slighted by the custom, because it would not lead to an assumption that a group of people were homogeneously male or an assumption that women were "lesser" than men or excluded from the conversation. If a group of people is uniformly female then the feminine declensions can be used, and fluent speakers will easily shift from one to the other based on group composition.

It's very much the same sort of situation that we've used words like "mankind" and "peace on Earth, good will towards men" and women have always understood that "men" included them implicitly. It's only recently that women have chosen to take linguistic offense and rise up and complicate the language in search of manufactured equity.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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> Instead of "blind review", consider using "anonymous review". Context: Unintentionally perpetuates that disability is somehow abnormal or negative, furthering an ableist culture. But.. disability is abnormal and negative? How tortured of a definition of 'normal' must one use to make blindness normal? And I suspect if the author of that sentence were offered, say, $100,000 to undergo a painless but irreversible blin…

You can either care about how blind people feel through your usage of language or not care.

You don't get to say they should not feel that way.

Why not take it on good faith that this work was guided by research thar asked more blind people than you have? Once you accept thar you can then decide on whether you care or not and act accordingly.

All political correctness boils down to is politeness and not upsetting other people. If you don't care how they feel, crack on with this sort of rage posting.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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post #97

Died by suicide? Suicide is a self-inflicted act; committed suicide is correct - and I say this as a man living on the edge. To diminish that is to refuse to accept the underlying cause, which is a bad fucking way to stop it from happening again (or at least to someone else). This whole damned list is retarded. Most of the elements aren't even accurate; they're euphemisms. Someone with OCD isn't 'detail-oriented' the…

"Commit suicide" has the same vibes as "masturbation is self-rape". It doesn't make sense, as an act against oneself is by definition happening with consent. They're both acts of bodily autonomy.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

#136

From a sociological & political perspective, I’m most concerned here by the expansive notion of “harm” embedded in these guidelines. Harm is a serious thing: It represents the line where my rights end at yours. If using an inappropriate but common cultural idiom harms someone as opposed to being simply rude, that has a potentially revolutionary significance.

> Harm is a serious thing: It represents the line where my rights end at yours.

That's the only definition of harm you think is valid?

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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> Grandfather: This term has its roots in the "grandfather clause" adopted by Southern states to deny voting rights to Blacks.

> Red team: "Red" is often used disparagingly to refer to Indigenous peoples, so its use in this context could be offensive to some groups.

> Blackbox: Assigns negative connotations to the color black, racializing the term.

> Brave (do not use): This term perpetuates the stereotype of the "noble courageous savage," equating the Indigenous male as being less than a man.

This is the pseudo-intellectual equivalent banning any word that contains "ass" because "ass" is a bad word.

Anyone involved in the production of this document should be embarrassed and ashamed.

Re: Stanford's “Elimination of Harmful Language” Initiative

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post #115
post #97

Died by suicide? Suicide is a self-inflicted act; committed suicide is correct - and I say this as a man living on the edge. To diminish that is to refuse to accept the underlying cause, which is a bad fucking way to stop it from happening again (or at least to someone else). This whole damned list is retarded. Most of the elements aren't even accurate; they're euphemisms. Someone with OCD isn't 'detail-oriented' the…

Also: > ballsy: Attributes personality traits to anatomy. The balls literally produce testosterone, which literally increases risk taking behaviour. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Worse: you are taking “non-confrontational” pills like many of your peers. The insanity is real, that no one confronts and tries to stymie the madness is the true disease.
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