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Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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> at least people are being told why they are banned This is not even true. "i did not delete anything. i received no notification about which tweet got me suspended. i still have no idea" https://twitter.com/MattBinder/status/1604227164416925696

Fair enough, perhaps it just seemed that way? Idk Also, interesting to see you on HN (didn’t realize you were in the tech space). I saw you on Tim Pools show, recognized the name

> Also, interesting to see you on HN (didn’t realize you were in the tech space). I saw you on Tim Pools show, recognized the name

I am not Matt Binder. I just linked to his tweet.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Are we watching musk "get" radicalized? Or has he always been that way? Because I remember way back, when journalists would write poor reviews of Tesla, he would go after them... typically accusing them of being compromised in some way, or not really being a journalist. Then there's the swatting of a tesla wistleblower. Or when a customer was "rude", he canceled their tesla pre-order. Or when that tesla employee post…

So he’s just like Bill Gates in the 90’s. A little douche with an ego and deceptive business practices. Not sure why no one mentions his asperger's syndrome because that’s an obvious mastodon in the room.

No one mentions it because his Aspergers is a little heavy on the Ass.

Besides I thought we weren't calling it Asperger's anymore

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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I don't think Mastodon has any chance of overtaking Twitter. Here's how I would do it:

Create basically a clone of Twitter, with the same UI and functionality. The goal would be to make transition as seamless as possible. I have no interest in learning about why Mastodon works, why it runs on multiple domains and getting used to its UI. I just want Twitter without Elon.

Make it possible to easily transfer your data, including the people you follow. You would be able to see which of them are on the "new Twitter" and get notified when they switch.

Be inventive in making people convert. Perhaps organize a coordinated switch of many high-profile users to generate a lot of media attention. Or provide incentives such as some sort of ownership share.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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ElonJet pointed out where the flight was. The journalists simply pointed out that ElonJet was using public data from the FAA. So no, its not considered doxxing. All airplanes must be tracked, otherwise there's a chance that they'll crash into each other. If you don't like that, then maybe don't fly in a private jet all the time. Share your jet with others. Or God forbid, use a cheaper, more efficient, better-for-the-…

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It's still public information. PIA only hides the tail number from ADS-B communication, but there is also ACARS, where it's not hidden.

https://mastodon.social/@JxckS/109524638137254564

https://mastodon.social/@JxckS/109526625919858739

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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When a game is rigged, you don't have to be competent to win

Do you think you can become a billionaire with $25k from Daddy?

I don't have the psychopathic greed that billionaires have, so I would never have got more than a few million before helping others.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Presumably for a whole lot less than he paid for Twitter, he could have purchased 100 jets and flown them around the country continually for years, hopping on and off as he chose and nobody would have any idea where he was. He is still, afaik, 'worth' 100s of billions of dollars even though his wealth has plummeted.

You'd prefer the global warming impact of that over the alternative?

This is like moving the argument goal posts: the movie

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That server is swamped with registrations and had to pause them. Pick another.

This kind of friction at even getting started doesn’t bode well for Mastodon’s success - forcing people to pick a server: how do they choose? Go with the one everyone talks about? Closed to new signups. Pick some other one, run the risk that it closes (the owner gets bored, it becomes too much work, they find keeping it up and stable too hard). Or else that it gets “defederated”, and hence you get effectively banned,…

> I can’t be bothered. I’m sure I’m hardly the only one.

I'm beginning to see this as a feature. The best social network may indeed be one that requires effort.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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I'm exactly in the target demographic that desperately wants a a return to the old, decentralized, protocol-based internet. We need working alternatives to Twitter to prevent a single mentally unstable billionaire from having this kind of power. But everything about Mastodon seems badly designed and engineered. The focus on "servers" seems technologically anachronistic, but worse, fragments the community and creates…

I am a little younger than the days of decentralized social media, but I caught the tail end of it. To me, Mastodon feels like an “email address” for social media. I think a lot of people are so used to centralized platforms that it seems crazy to have it be decentralized again. I suspect as Mastodon grows, there will be more servers that become popular and will likely host the bulk of people, in much the same way th…

Technology Connections put it well

https://hachyderm.io/@TechConnectify@mas.to/1095298448544650...

> "Imagine you signed up for a sort of reverse-email address where your sent emails landed on a public page that anyone who knew your address could read if they wanted to and even follow you for more."

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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Mastodon will not die in the same way Napster did; it’s decentralized and there’s no way it can be completely shut down since anyone can run an instance.

There are ways. Placing regulatory burdens or legal liabilities on anyone running a social media instance would quickly make Mastadon untenable. Something as simple as manditory age verification might be enough.

Legal strategies won’t work effectively, just as they haven’t against BitTorrent pirating and sites like the pirate bay. Likely there will always be a jurisdiction where those restrictions don’t apply.

Re: Twitter's anti-Mastodon filter evasion

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I'm exactly in the target demographic that desperately wants a a return to the old, decentralized, protocol-based internet. We need working alternatives to Twitter to prevent a single mentally unstable billionaire from having this kind of power. But everything about Mastodon seems badly designed and engineered. The focus on "servers" seems technologically anachronistic, but worse, fragments the community and creates…

Every one of your complaints about individual servers apply to Twitter as it is already, and some of them I see as features. For instance, not completely losing your community because Twitter or Discord or whatever parent company decides one day you don't belong there.

You can move accounts to a different server if you stop liking where you're at, which is a feature nobody has elsewhere it seems.

I view Mastodon as if Twitter, a Microblogging platform, and IRC had a child.

Let's take the reverse tack though, and agree with your opinion that it's a clusterfuck. Twitter should be threatened by Mastodon because they're losing users to it in spite of all those "problems".

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