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Re: Tell HN: Google is correlating location data to your IP

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If you, as the user, want to restrict this, you can do so here:

https://myadcenter.google.com/controls/ads-data/historical-l...

Advertisers are generally aware of this. They can control location & language targeting. Digital advertisers are aware digital target is imperfect, and that imperfection is often called "wasted" and is n priced in.

Your comment about Edge on your desktop makes me thing something beyond Google is going on, as Edge only runs on Windows (a non-Google product, made by Microsoft) and Edge is also a non-Google product, made by Microsoft. I wouldn't be surprised if something is confused in Windows & that's propagating into your web experience.

Re: Tell HN: Google is correlating location data to your IP

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Google changes the UI language in its first party apps based on IP, which is a much bigger deal than advertisers chosing to send Spanish ads to people who spend time in Spanish language countries.

Not just that, I also constantly get German Wikipedia articles as top result when my browser and OS are set to English. If it were only the UI, that would be better because I know the buttons by heart already (not a given for every user, of course). I've always wondered what I'm supposed to do when on holiday in a country with a different script that I can't make heads or tails of. I'll have to practice my japanese o…

With DDG, you can switch the location slider on, and it seems to use your IP then.

Re: Tell HN: Google is correlating location data to your IP

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Not you IP address but your router/access point's MAC address and been doing it for many years. For example, I receive quite a few devices for reviews, and I mostly give things away after using those. Many years ago, I gave a friend in another city a router. For a few weeks his computer and other devices reported his location as being my city instead of his. It took a couple of weeks for Google services to catch up.…

In my case the location it shows is in most cases very wrong and also sometimes places I have never visited. Sometimes it changes during some minutes to other places hundreds of kilometers away. So in my case it is completely nonsense what is going on.

Re: Tell HN: Google is correlating location data to your IP

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Google uses the whole bag of tricks to correlate your location and other personal information, they are actively engaging in a surveillance system which previous Stasi members (yes Eastern Germany) have described as a wet dream. That can include any number of avenues, including from implants they've put on devices you may carry. For example, even if you don't have location services on, depending on the model it will…

If people actually looked at the machines and code doing the tracking, they would find out that advertising online is tied to complete electromagnetic surveillance of the entire globe, including people's inner speech and bodily actions.

The same people responsible for Havana Syndrome have coerced their way into the tech industry and, as you said, privacy will only be had with a fight.

Petty criminals are recruited online and given unfettered access to systems that have complete dossier and real-time tracking of anyone, enabling harassment, surveillance and sabotage.

Just disconnecting isn't enough, tinfoil won't shield against the advanced electromagnetic surveillance used and only a rebuild of our society, with housing that can absorb and nullify radiation, will bring privacy and security back.

Re: Tell HN: Google is correlating location data to your IP

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How do they get mac address from HTTP requests?

Not from HTTP requests. Android has access to the network stack and location. Google grabs all visible APs around and correlate to your location. It is way before HTTP even happens. This data is collected while you are driving around, walking down the street, etc.

How can you block this?

Re: Tell HN: Google is correlating location data to your IP

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not from HTTP requests. Android has access to the network stack and location. Google grabs all visible APs around and correlate to your location. It is way before HTTP even happens. This data is collected while you are driving around, walking down the street, etc.

How can you block this?

Disable “coarse location” option in settings. Might not work though.

If you want coarse location to work but don't want Google to know it, try microG with a non-Google location provider (I use Apple and Mozilla and it's pretty good).

Re: Tell HN: Google is correlating location data to your IP

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Google changes the UI language in its first party apps based on IP, which is a much bigger deal than advertisers chosing to send Spanish ads to people who spend time in Spanish language countries.

Not just that, I also constantly get German Wikipedia articles as top result when my browser and OS are set to English. If it were only the UI, that would be better because I know the buttons by heart already (not a given for every user, of course). I've always wondered what I'm supposed to do when on holiday in a country with a different script that I can't make heads or tails of. I'll have to practice my japanese o…

I believe if you're logged in it will miraculously know what language to use. Mind you I don't actually know because I stay logged out
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