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Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by stusmall »

moloch-hai wrote: post #180
stusmall wrote: post #97

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It's been a (very) long time since I worked in Android OS land but at the time I could see effects of them actively moving projects from GCC to Clang. I always picked up the outsider impression that it was their preferred C++ toolchain. First I've heard of them abandoning it

There is a big push for their proprietary language "Carbon". Clang is way behind on implementing most C++20 features.

That's an early stage, pre-production, experimental language. They are still a couple years out from a 1.0. They aren't moving away from clang for that anytime soon and they sure haven't abandoned clang for it.

Also it isn't even proprietary[1]

1. https://github.com/carbon-language/carbon-lang/blob/trunk/LI...

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Post by danielheath »

gps0 wrote: post #218
danielheath wrote: post #157

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To me, Linux means having the option of a system that lacks distractions. That’s a drastic ux improvement for me personally; IMO windows UX peaked with 2000, and XP was nearly as good. I haven’t played much multiplayer anything (a little MTGa, among us, tabletop simulator and beat saber) but none of the single player games I’ve tried on Ubuntu have had any issues; just open steam and press play. Windows started pushi…

What are some DEs / window managers you think are quite simple and let you focus?

I’m using classic i3, with a nearly stock config. I have a key binding to start a launcher (in lieu of a start button).

I3bar to indicate which workspaces have new chat messages etc.

Default black background, all non-critical notifications disabled; I get distracted easily, so I craft an environment that avoids distractions.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by yazzku »

LarryMullins wrote: post #168
yazzku wrote: post #151

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Would have never guess it was meant to be a joke.

To be clear, you're joking right now, right? I think you must be, but given your previous comment I'm not sure. Dry sarcasm in text is hard...

No, I am not. Linus is not exactly an average person; it seems perfectly reasonable to me that among his many eccentricities would be the belief that only some people play games on a PC.

Maybe I have been reading too many of his emails.

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Post by zqf11 »

LarryMullins wrote: post #172
ROTMetro wrote: post #114

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Video games are the modern 'circus' in 'bread and circuses' it provides an opiate for that masses to escape from confronting their current situation and gives the government an escape valve for young male angst. As to communication, have you seen Russianss on the Steam forums? It's all Zs, Russian flags, and ethnic slurs against Ukrainians.

Keeping Russian teens in a sedentary lifestyle with video games is good for Ukraine. It weakens the Russian military. If anything, they should be giving free games to young Russians. Give them lots of pornography, liquor and drugs as well. These things weaken nations.

>they should be giving free games to young Russians. Give them lots of pornography, liquor and drugs as well. These things weaken nations.

Wow man cool it with the antisemitic remarks.

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Post by httgp »

autotune wrote: post #27
djcannabiz wrote: post #11

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Yeah one of the reasons I decided to take the plunge and install Linux on my macbook is the compatibility with 32 bit games (risk of rain in particular).

As I have a M1 MBP I am probably going to have to have a separate gaming laptop, or possibly Steam Deck in the future, for quite some time.

Or AsahiLinux might let you keep using your M1.

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Post by sgjohnson »

ParetoOptimal wrote: post #83
sgjohnson wrote: post #52

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Cloudflare?

I personally dislike cloudflare for not dropping KF, not sure if that's a majority opinion.

I dislike them for dropping them a week after saying that they won't drop websites that are simply detestable.

Personally I don't care, they are free to have whatever policy they want, but doing exactly what they did one week after writing up a blog post and explicitly stating that they most likely won't drop any websites like that anymore was a bit disappointing.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by rubicks »

candiddevmike wrote: post #34
haunter wrote: post #10

Linus at DebConf 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=310&v=Pzl1B7nB9Kc&feature=yo... >I’m on a record saying, that maybe Valve will actually save the Linux desktop. And it’s actually not because I think games are important! I don't care, I don't play games. I think some people do, so games maybe important. But the really important issue is I guarantee you Valve will not make 15 different binaries. And I also guarant…

Id rather have static binaries than a flatpak/snap for "universal distribution", personally.

Please, $DEITY, deliver us from this hell wrought by Canonical.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by viraptor »

bayindirh wrote: post #165
0cf8612b2e1e wrote: post #135

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Why AppImage over Flatpack? I like the Flatpack ability to easily restrict network access to binaries. Probably possibly in all of the packaging formats, but limiting permissions feels like a functional piece of Flatpack.

Because AppImages need no daemons and plumbing. They are self contained binaries which contain everything it needs to run. Running a big infra to run a single binary once in a while feels like a burden to some of us.

Flatpak also doesn't need daemons beyond what the app is using.

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Post by ClimaxGravely »

yazzku wrote: post #223
LarryMullins wrote: post #168

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To be clear, you're joking right now, right? I think you must be, but given your previous comment I'm not sure. Dry sarcasm in text is hard...

No, I am not. Linus is not exactly an average person; it seems perfectly reasonable to me that among his many eccentricities would be the belief that only some people play games on a PC. Maybe I have been reading too many of his emails.

You're not alone. I wasn't able to discern that quote as humor either.

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Post by robswc »

Reminds me of that joke where the worlds entire computing system is perched upon a tool by a guy that lives in the middle of Nebraska.

Seems the field of people that could get this stuff working (some really awesome hacking) is so small... or rather, breakthroughs come from a few individuals.

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