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Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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The part about not giving a fuck is crucial. You don't get rewarded for preventing bad things.

> You don't get rewarded for preventing bad things. A few years ago I saw a promotion announcement e-mail come into my inbox for a colleague who sat a few steps from my desk. It was filled with the usual "did this, did that, made an impact, etc." statements but it also had a large section dedicated to the analysis this employee performed and presented to kill a huge initiative before the organization rolled it out. T…

Might be an exception that proves the rule. Killing a major initiative might’ve been a boon for sibling initiatives m — no wonder those leads applaud an underling who usefully twisted the knife. Politics — is Amazon known for it?…

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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"I have never been able to kill stupid things before they cause damage" One of the most important things an organization can have is a "no man". A project that I was involved in when I worked at Google was completed on time primarily because we had a very senior (DE level) engineer tangentially involved in the project. He was near the end of his career, and he just didn't give a f* about politics. He'd sit in design…

Switching between business and academia several times I am really struck by this.

Meetings where the elephant in the room is not mentioned, because nobody wants to loose face. Really bad practice not commented on because (I guess, I am bad at this) some form of "mutually assured destruction". I will not point out your mistakes so you do not point out mine.

That, in case you are wondering, is from business.

I am really pleased to see people commenting here about business experience that go against my experience. And in my little group (of two, we could easily be five) we are straight with each other. But in the wider group? Rank incompetence, and dreadful mistakes that could be corrected if someone would point it out.

The point is technical excellence, good scientific practice, that is not required for being successful at business. It is al about "people skills". I.e. convincing somebody that they got what they were promised when they did not.

The university system in my country (Aotearoa) has been hobbled by people with business fetish. The meme was in the 1990s that "business is the most efficient". I believed it, until I saw the waste, inefficiency, downright lying and dishonesty, aghh I am triggered, that is business.

The same thing happens to some degree in academia (especially in commerce. My academic experience is science in the 1990s and commerce in the 2010s) but only "some degree". I see it at every nearly business meeting I attend.

I said before, I will say again, how pleasing it is to see comments here from people with different experiences than me.

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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Perhaps the poster is trying to befuddle identification of their main account through stylography? One can get quite paranoid on the internet, you know. (I am not a dog).

Nowadays people would probably just use GPT prompts and rephrase to obscure identity. Good luck reversing the output to deduce the style of the author's original input.

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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> I feel sorry for those FAANG engineers... Imagine that you're paid 2-3x, the work is confined to 9-5, gourmet meals on the 2x days you're not wfh, generous vacation policy, world-class benefits, and ample time to pursue side hobbies or family. I know so many exceptional engineers that went this route... after they got over the perfectionism, imposter syndrome, and wild ambitions to just accept the status quo. Now,…

> the work is confined to 9-5 tell me you haven't worked in FAANG without telling me you haven't worked in FAANG

Depends on the team. It can be.

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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Yeah well, you're anonymous, so you might as well be someone with a huge ego who got their idea shut down by Carmack once and is still bitter about it. More often than not, when people think they "prove something wrong with data" it's more that they're "taking some data and interpret in a way that fits their standpoint". Carmack has proven enough times in the past that he's able to deliver, that he can push technolog…

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someone writing and wishing to hide their identity may very well be masking their writing style. The bad grammar here might be the social media equivalent of using letters cut from magazines.

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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Honestly no one really cares about VR that’s the problem. It’s cool in concept but whose going to shell out cash to be tethered to a machine wearing goggles sitting in a chair? AR has potential but even that is marginally better than alternative solutions. Also, I don’t know about y’all but I don’t trust Facebook so I don’t trust Meta. They are a data-leach. We still probably have a decade or more to go with this tec…

Honestly no one really cares about VR that’s the problem. I feel like this is definitely the elephant in the room everybody is ignoring. Almost nobody gives a hoot about VR! I'm a software engineer with a lot of (surprise, surprise) nerdy/geeky/whatever friends and interest in VR is close to zero. A few friends vouched for various games like Half-Life:Alyx and Beat Saber, but nobody was claiming it was a life alterin…

Carmack explicitly addressed this in his keynote last year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnSUk0je6oo at around 43 minutes in.

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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VR shines in simulators, flighing, driving etc, there the immersion is key but thats really the only domain in private life where VR really works. In corporate there are bunch of neat areas but AR is defintely more useful right now. E.g. support, meetings, teaching

> AR is defintely more useful right now. VR and AR have essentially merged at this point. Nobody is releasing VR headsets without passthrough (and non-passthrough VR still isn't viable tech yet. cost, brightness and poor FOV are holding it back). So every VR headset is also an AR headset.

Passthrough AR inherently has the same FoV as VR so I'm having trouble interpreting your comment. I also don't see how brightness would be an issue for non-passthrough VR. Did you mean "non-passthrough AR", like the HoloLens?

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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> You’re supposed to lead without authority John seems to be particularly calling out that he was not able to influence the people with high enough rank to make decisions. So it sounds like he at least thought there was an authority structure there wasn't as flat as you describe.

Valve is a great example of how this doesn't work in practice. Jeri Ellsworth got fired and revealed that the supposedly flat hierarchy at Valve is really composed of informal cliques - with the most influential groups having a direct line to the CEO/ Kinda what happened to communism in Russia, if you think about it

How is it even remotley like communism in USSR? Russian empire had the same governance structure since the time of the Golden Horde to present day e.g. very hierarchal top down ...

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

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Oh wow. What he’s describing really resonates with me. Working in software, I feel it’s almost dichotomous in its nature that people absolutely coast or absolutely give a damn. It can be so difficult to work on a coasting team. And otherwise, it’s torture to your soul not to give a damn around people who do (if you care, I guess). In his role I can see that being a genuine struggle, arguably worse than what I’ve enco…

It resonates the exact same way with me. I hope our industry can start having higher standards, or at least start respecting leadership with high standards. 5% GPU usage is abysmal and it does seem to be reflective of the engineering culture (from knowing other people at Meta).

I haven’t worked in graphics so I’m not sure what percentage of GPU usage is good. Should it be lower or higher?

Re: John Carmack Leaves Meta

#810

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> You don't get rewarded for preventing bad things. A few years ago I saw a promotion announcement e-mail come into my inbox for a colleague who sat a few steps from my desk. It was filled with the usual "did this, did that, made an impact, etc." statements but it also had a large section dedicated to the analysis this employee performed and presented to kill a huge initiative before the organization rolled it out. T…

Might be an exception that proves the rule. Killing a major initiative might’ve been a boon for sibling initiatives m — no wonder those leads applaud an underling who usefully twisted the knife. Politics — is Amazon known for it?…

Or it might not. Have you any reason to search for the negative in a prima facie positive?
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