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Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by amelius »

Gordonjcp wrote: post #123
amelius wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because I suspect that snap uses both /home/user/snap and /var/.../snap, and needs them to be on the same disk (to allow hardlinking, I suppose).

Have you tried it? Sounds like something a bindmount might fix. Back in the olden days before simple and convenient packaging systems like snap had been invented, we had to get pretty creative so that stuff didn't freak out because it was split across filesystems.

I haven't tried it, but I can remember people on forums having mixed results with a bindmount. I guess there is no guarantee that it works until Snap has been running for a while without problems.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by mrkramer »

haunter wrote: post #10

Linus at DebConf 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=310&v=Pzl1B7nB9Kc&feature=yo... >I’m on a record saying, that maybe Valve will actually save the Linux desktop. And it’s actually not because I think games are important! I don't care, I don't play games. I think some people do, so games maybe important. But the really important issue is I guarantee you Valve will not make 15 different binaries. And I also guarant…

Why would I use Linux Desktop over Windows Desktop? Because it's FOSS, because of price, UX? I don't get it.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by mylons »

emersion wrote: post #137

I'm one of the developers contracted by Valve to work on gamescope, wlroots, Mesa, the kernel, Wayland, etc. Really happy that my contracted work helps not only SteamOS, but very often the whole ecosystem. Examples include radv/amdgpu fixes, tearing page-flips, a re-usable library to make use of KMS planes, and the list goes on.

is it public what they're paying these contractors?

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by ThrowawayTestr »

ever1337 wrote: post #120
heywhatupboys wrote: post #102

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> Yeah, even though I'd agree that KF is detestable I am very curious about this tbh. Has anyone here gone to that site? I read that they just report publicly available info that people have voluenteered online. While I understand that doxxing is terrible and so is targeted harassment, are they that much worse than the daily mail or any other gossip magazine?

the difference between KF and a tabloid is that KF members go out of their way to interfere in their targets' lives

Anyone that brags about harrassing people gets banned immediately.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by samtheDamned »

butz wrote: post #63

Thanks to Valve Linux is single OS on my home computer. Most of the games from my medium sized Steam library are working, and few that does not work today, will probably be fixed in the future. Need to mention that I do not play new AAA titles or multiplayer games, but I enjoy older games, and some of those are broken on modern versions of Windows.

Same, I got interested in trying it a couple years back and steam's support for games is what made it seem so accessible. I enjoy a mix of smaller games and AAA gaming but even it's AAA game support is impressive, I can play a good chunk of the CoD games and have been playing the recent battlefield and battlefront games with no issues. I've also been playing RDR2, GTA, DOOM, Borderlands, Cyberpunk, Shadow of War, Apex Legends, and many more with only a couple issues every once in a while, which is a tradeoff I'm willing to make. The only games I miss are Fortnite, Dead by daylight, and Rainbow 6 Siege, which I end up playing with friends using Nvidia Streaming.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by jl6 »

smoldesu wrote: post #92
ParetoOptimal wrote: post #83

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I personally dislike cloudflare for not dropping KF, not sure if that's a majority opinion.

Yeah, even though I'd agree that KF is detestable, the way Cloudflare cracked under pressure was a public embarrassment. It's hard to give them the benefit of the doubt these days.

It’s the difference between awful and systemically-awful.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by CBarkleyU »

mrkramer wrote: post #142
haunter wrote: post #10

Linus at DebConf 2014 https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=310&v=Pzl1B7nB9Kc&feature=yo... >I’m on a record saying, that maybe Valve will actually save the Linux desktop. And it’s actually not because I think games are important! I don't care, I don't play games. I think some people do, so games maybe important. But the really important issue is I guarantee you Valve will not make 15 different binaries. And I also guarant…

Why would I use Linux Desktop over Windows Desktop? Because it's FOSS, because of price, UX? I don't get it.

It's like asking me asking you why I would drive a Mercedes over my BMW. How would you know? All you could do is to list a million things that are different on a Mercedes compared to a BMW and then claim every one of those differences makes a Merc better.

Is that what you expect to get as replies to your question?

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by COGlory »

slavik81 wrote: post #79
cowmix wrote: post #65

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Valve is using the 'wrong' AMD gpu driver.

That's not enough information for me to understand what's wrong, but I suppose maybe I should find a Steam Deck and try things out myself. If you want to follow up privately, my email is in my profile.

There are two drivers for AMD on Linux. There's the open source driver, Mesa, and there's the proprietary AMD driver, called AMDGPU. I'm not certain which driver Valve is using on Steam Deck (I've never had to look), but if they're funding Mesa, I'm guessing they're using Mesa.

Unfortunately, some of AMD's GP-compute infrastructure is only supported on Linux through the proprietary driver. I believe these are ROCm and HIP. I'm not sure about OpenCL. I'm not 100% sure what Blender uses for AMD acceleration, but if it's ROCm, you'd need the AMDGPU driver instead of Mesa.

Could have some of these details wrong, but I believe that's the gist of it.

You can, of course, install other OS on the Deck.

Re: Valve is paying open-source developers to work on Proton, Mesa, and more

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Post by mrkramer »

CBarkleyU wrote: post #148
mrkramer wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would I use Linux Desktop over Windows Desktop? Because it's FOSS, because of price, UX? I don't get it.

It's like asking me asking you why I would drive a Mercedes over my BMW. How would you know? All you could do is to list a million things that are different on a Mercedes compared to a BMW and then claim every one of those differences makes a Merc better. Is that what you expect to get as replies to your question?

For a casual user who uses computer for work and gaming I would go with Windows. People say Linux is free and open source, more secure and you get privacy but is it really worth it? Idk.
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