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A ticking time bomb: healthcare under threat across western Europe

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Re: A ticking time bomb: healthcare under threat across western Europe

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It is slowly decaying here, in a central european country with socialized healthcare. It isn't because of COVID or aging or anything like that, but rather because of a systemic 'privatization' where taxes collected via mandatory private insurance companies are used to fund an alternative privatized healthcare system that then offers higher pay to healthcare workers.

Re: A ticking time bomb: healthcare under threat across western Europe

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It's an organized dismantle coming from the right wing parties, they cut resources and spending creating waiting lists and the deviate people to private services. The promotion of private healthcare it's all over, super cheap prices for now, till the destroy the system and then I guess we will get a super expensive scamming healthcare like in the USA. In Spain several hospitals that turned private were returning to being public because the super efficient capitalist owners could not make it work.

Re: A ticking time bomb: healthcare under threat across western Europe

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post #2

It is slowly decaying here, in a central european country with socialized healthcare. It isn't because of COVID or aging or anything like that, but rather because of a systemic 'privatization' where taxes collected via mandatory private insurance companies are used to fund an alternative privatized healthcare system that then offers higher pay to healthcare workers.

Does it boil down to physicians and other care staff not being paid enough?

Re: A ticking time bomb: healthcare under threat across western Europe

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It's an organized dismantle coming from the right wing parties, they cut resources and spending creating waiting lists and the deviate people to private services. The promotion of private healthcare it's all over, super cheap prices for now, till the destroy the system and then I guess we will get a super expensive scamming healthcare like in the USA. In Spain several hospitals that turned private were returning to b…

In Poland we have waiting list for more than a decade and recently private sector pricing accelerated wildly while any complications are being sent back to public healthcare.

Re: A ticking time bomb: healthcare under threat across western Europe

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And this is with then sucking eastern europe dry off almost all capable medical personnel.

Lets face it Western European healthcare is a scam. They are barely existing with millions of qualified people from CEE and now they are eyeing countries like Philippines, Indonesia and such.

It is all a ponzi

Re: A ticking time bomb: healthcare under threat across western Europe

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And this is with then sucking eastern europe dry off almost all capable medical personnel. Lets face it Western European healthcare is a scam. They are barely existing with millions of qualified people from CEE and now they are eyeing countries like Philippines, Indonesia and such. It is all a ponzi

It's not a Ponzi, reality is western europe is not really rich, not as much as it seems. Debt is over the roof, demography is a disaster, politicians worse and worse every year passing, corruption even inside EU parliament. China is now much richer as a whole.

Re: A ticking time bomb: healthcare under threat across western Europe

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And this is with then sucking eastern europe dry off almost all capable medical personnel. Lets face it Western European healthcare is a scam. They are barely existing with millions of qualified people from CEE and now they are eyeing countries like Philippines, Indonesia and such. It is all a ponzi

It's not a Ponzi, reality is western europe is not really rich, not as much as it seems. Debt is over the roof, demography is a disaster, politicians worse and worse every year passing, corruption even inside EU parliament. China is now much richer as a whole.

You are projecting the views of riches in China on the very few factors you are allowed to see go further than 100 miles from a big city and you are basically in the 1900s.
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