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The Twitter Files, Part Six

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Post by codechicago277 »

Georgelemental wrote: post #400
b0sk wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is probably the best quote about conservatism: Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect. See: https://kottke.org/22/12/the-boring-conservatism-of-elon-mus...

That's not what conservatism is. If you want the actual best quote about conservatism, it's this one: > There exists in such a case a certain institution or law; let us say, for the sake of simplicity, a fence or gate erected across a road. The more modern type of reformer goes gaily up to it and says, “I don’t see the use of this; let us clear it away.” To which the more intelligent type of reformer will do well to…

This is exactly it, people confuse conservatism with fascism, just like they confuse liberalism with communism.

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Post by hgdfhgdfhgdfbgf »

Jarwain wrote: post #204
jrjrndndnd wrote: post #17

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They were coordinating with Yoel Roth to police content. It's absurd that this news is being dismissed people don't like Twitter's new chief .

Specifically policing misinformation around elections?

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Post by wahnfrieden »

devindotcom wrote: post #440
scifibestfi wrote: post #433

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Why are they contacting Twitter as the FBI in a backchannel to report potentially ToS offending tweets as opposed to the way we all report tweets to Twitter? Or indeed at all when they're not illegal tweets. Imagine Trump is in charge of the FBI.

It's not a backchannel... every social media company has a dedicated response team that handles requests from law enforcement, partners, big media companies, etc. Do you think Disney just hits the report button on YouTube? This is an official method of reporting content. Literally every major company does this and the reasons why have been explained for years.

It is a back channel, you’re/we’re just accustomed to bootlicking behaviors in business

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Post by skinnymuch »

kodyo wrote: post #177
mikeyouse wrote: post #157

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You do realize for this to be true - the FBI, one of the most conservative organizations in this history of the country, one that’s never been led by a democrat - would have to be secretly as liberal as Twitter’s trust and safety team? Do you understand why people might not find that plausible?

The FBI serves the state, and itself. If they need to make friends with a leftist to get something done, why would that stop them? I personally find it hard to believe that Crossfire Hurricane was run by a conservative cabal in the FBI, but maybe you're right. Whoever were doing it were elitist reprobates.

Do you know what “leftist” means? Do you think Twitter the capitalist multi billion dollar company or its top ranking people have ever been leftist?

LEO are 90%+ on the right. We are talking about the famously conservative FBI here.

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Post by croes »

moralestapia wrote: post #52
paulpauper wrote: post #7

3. Twitter’s contact with the FBI was constant and pervasive, as if it were a subsidiary. 4. Between January 2020 and November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth. How is this constant? This is just 1 request every 7 days . I figured it would be more. Also, it's called the FBI. Their job is to investigate federal matters, which includes content on socia…

Once per week for three years is not constant to you? Weird.

Do you really think there are only 52 tweets per year that are relevant to the FBI?

BTW every week is of course constant but so is one a year or once every ten years. It's constant but not often.

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Post by skinnymuch »

ciler wrote: post #382
jacquesm wrote: post #241

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And rightly so.

Depends on the context. People have been suspended from Twitter from saying things like " transwomen are actually men so stop letting them compete in women's sports, it's not safe or fair for actual women ", which isn't hate speech, doesn't target an individual, and is a legitimate political opinion, so in theory should be fine. Yet bans are handed out anyway.

I’m not familiar with the lightness with which Twitter bans conservatives. Could you provide an example close to the example you gave? Or will any example be even more bigoted?

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Post by jacquesm »

rideontime wrote: post #410
snowwrestler wrote: post #358

In a system of free speech, the government may also speak. I think that is where a lot of people are getting confused or hung up. They think the First Amendment means the government is not allowed to speak at all. That is incorrect. It prohibits "abridging the freedom of speech," in other words, forcibly restraining other people from speaking. So: it is legal for the FBI to call up a company and say what they think.…

Marc Andreesen seems convinced that indictments are coming. Delusional.

Yet another name that I once looked up to.

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Post by ActorNightly »

jrjrndndnd wrote: post #17
paulpauper wrote: post #7

3. Twitter’s contact with the FBI was constant and pervasive, as if it were a subsidiary. 4. Between January 2020 and November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth. How is this constant? This is just 1 request every 7 days . I figured it would be more. Also, it's called the FBI. Their job is to investigate federal matters, which includes content on socia…

They were coordinating with Yoel Roth to police content. It's absurd that this news is being dismissed people don't like Twitter's new chief .

Private company = their rules on their product. Musk is demonstrating this aptly currently.

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Post by jghfjhfgjhgfjhg »

skinnymuch wrote: post #474
kodyo wrote: post #177

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The FBI serves the state, and itself. If they need to make friends with a leftist to get something done, why would that stop them? I personally find it hard to believe that Crossfire Hurricane was run by a conservative cabal in the FBI, but maybe you're right. Whoever were doing it were elitist reprobates.

Do you know what “leftist” means? Do you think Twitter the capitalist multi billion dollar company or its top ranking people have ever been leftist? LEO are 90%+ on the right. We are talking about the famously conservative FBI here.

Their coordinated actions of banning conservative tweets are "conservative"?

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Post by skinnymuch »

ciler wrote: post #405
transcriptase wrote: post #275

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Here you go: https://www.dhillonlaw.com/lawsuits/meghan-murphy-twitter/

This isn't an example of someone being banned for being on the political right. Meghan Murphy is a left-wing feminist, she was banned for expressing gender critical views.

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