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The Twitter Files, Part Six

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Post by djur »

RetpolineDrama wrote: post #404
djur wrote: post #262

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> The FBI cannot censor people, period. That’s fascism and illegal in the US The FBI emailing Twitter to report possible violations of Twitter's terms of service is not censorship and it is not illegal. > This effectively gives trump, et al a direct path to a lawsuit against the federal government The FBI reported to Trump during the 2020 election cycle. It was headed by his own handpicked director, under the supervi…

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It absolutely is no such thing.

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Post by jacquesm »

dmix wrote: post #387
jacquesm wrote: post #376

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> A hacker pulling off an exfiltration of the entire DB of any major tech company I'm very skeptical about that happening. Under normal circumstances I would agree, but after firing so many people I can't imagine that security at Twitter is still priority #1, they likely have trouble keeping the lights on.

That would be the cherry on top of all this drama

I would not at all be surprised. At the rate Twitter is going down the drain you can expect anything, up to and including their hardware being sold at auction to the highest bidder, with some bad luck harddrives included.

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Post by rayiner »

angelbreakfree wrote: post #395

The wildest part of the Twitter files is the unhinged framing that they are presented under. 1. Anyone who has been in a tech company knows that there is internal lingo that refers to features we devs make. But it's presented as being an "Orwellian language" 2. Based on the emails he posts, the agencies give links to review based on tips they receive or their own intel and twitter then decides if it violates ToS or n…

I’ve never been a big fan of Taibbi. But all the things you’re mentioning are characteristic of his journalistic style, which made him famous in his coverage of Wall Street back in 2008. It’s uncharitable and filtered through a fundamental distrust of moneyed corporations, but I’ve never heard it described as “unhinged.”

And I’m not sure “unhinged” is an appropriate description. For example, while “internal lingo” may be common, isn’t it also fair to observe that much corporate internal lingo is pretty Orwellian? Similarly, as to your second point, is it unreasonable to draw an inference that Twitter is doing what some agency wants it to do, when the agency asks Twitter to do something and then Twitter does it?

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Post by oxff »

angelbreakfree wrote: post #395

The wildest part of the Twitter files is the unhinged framing that they are presented under. 1. Anyone who has been in a tech company knows that there is internal lingo that refers to features we devs make. But it's presented as being an "Orwellian language" 2. Based on the emails he posts, the agencies give links to review based on tips they receive or their own intel and twitter then decides if it violates ToS or n…

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Post by snomad »

paulpauper wrote: post #7

3. Twitter’s contact with the FBI was constant and pervasive, as if it were a subsidiary. 4. Between January 2020 and November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth. How is this constant? This is just 1 request every 7 days . I figured it would be more. Also, it's called the FBI. Their job is to investigate federal matters, which includes content on socia…

> How is this constant? This is just 1 request every 7 days

That is only 1 VIP twitter recipient, not the total received by Twitter.

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Post by neuronexmachina »

> 7. The FBI’s social media-focused task force, known as FTIF, created in the wake of the 2016 election, swelled to 80 agents and corresponded with Twitter to identify alleged foreign influence and election tampering of all kinds.

I think this is a typo and should be FITF, the FBI Foreign Influence Task Force: https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/foreign-...

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Post by [deleted] »

threeseed wrote: post #434
jacquesm wrote: post #81

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The goal seems to be to distract from Musk selling off Tesla at breakneck speed. Every time there is a big hoopla around Musk the first thing I do is check the stock price and sure enough it seems to be dropping like a stone in tandem with the news releases.

Also I think the idea is to try and attract conservatives from other apps e.g. TruthSocial. Good idea in theory except that many of those users aren't as well-behaved so to speak. And so the overall quality of the discourse has noticeably dropped since Musk took over.

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Post by etchalon »

scifibestfi wrote: post #433
angelbreakfree wrote: post #395

The wildest part of the Twitter files is the unhinged framing that they are presented under. 1. Anyone who has been in a tech company knows that there is internal lingo that refers to features we devs make. But it's presented as being an "Orwellian language" 2. Based on the emails he posts, the agencies give links to review based on tips they receive or their own intel and twitter then decides if it violates ToS or n…

Why are they contacting Twitter as the FBI in a backchannel to report potentially ToS offending tweets as opposed to the way we all report tweets to Twitter? Or indeed at all when they're not illegal tweets. Imagine Trump is in charge of the FBI.

Trump was in charge of the FBI when this happened, and its director (Wray) was appointed by him.
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