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Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by noAnswer »

throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #23
cpuguy83 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's what they said about XP when it came out.

really? who, when? I have actually lived through that era, and I can't remember there being negative sentiment about XP. I don't know about the dark corners of the internet, but the people in my circles were neutral about XP, hated Vista, loved 7, hated 8, hated 10 and hate 11 to this day, the only criticism of XP I saw is about the UI, which doesn't make sense to me - switching it was a matter of 3 clicks

It had online activation and online updates. People freaked out. There was a Software called XP-AntiSpy. It was so popular that it was soled in stores on physical media!

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by alar44 »

wnevets wrote: post #90
alar44 wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you suggesting Microsoft patched every vulnerability?

I'm asking who is looking for and deploying exploits for an OS no one uses.

Plenty of manufacturing still uses outdated OSs because they have to because they vendor no longer exists, doesn't care, or the machine itself is old and no longer supported. Manufacturing plants are also excellent targets.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by bluedino »

WhackyIdeas wrote: post #5

I am very curious of how long it would take to be ‘pwned’ whilst browsing the web with internet explorer on XP. Seconds, minutes, hours? Time to fire up a VM I think.

There was a time where a fresh 98 install wouldn't last very long at all if you had a public IP

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by Lammy »

eyelidlessness wrote: post #85
Koshkin wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> That was the best version Microsoft ever made No. 7 was a rollback on Vista. The best one which was not a step back but rather a step forward was Windows 2000. (Some even swear by NT4, which I feel also has some merit.)

Win2K was the only version of Windows I ever ran as a daily driver. I had access to Macs from an early age (since System 7 and through all the processor architecture transitions, except I haven’t gotten an M-series yet), but sold my Mac and couldn’t afford a replacement for some time around the XP transition. My completely unqualified ranking… - 2k: excellent, top Windows - XP: fine, if you turn off all the UI change…

> - ME: lol why even did this exist

To get Internet Explorer 5.5 deployed as widely as possible which was their strategy pre-DOJ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by narag »

badsectoracula wrote: post #39
throwaway0x7E6 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

really? who, when? I have actually lived through that era, and I can't remember there being negative sentiment about XP. I don't know about the dark corners of the internet, but the people in my circles were neutral about XP, hated Vista, loved 7, hated 8, hated 10 and hate 11 to this day, the only criticism of XP I saw is about the UI, which doesn't make sense to me - switching it was a matter of 3 clicks

Pretty much everyone i remember hated XP's "Fisher Price" look. Also there was a ton of compatibility issues, at the time Microsoft saw Win98 as the biggest competitor to XP and it wasn't until SP2 that XP was seen as good. Funny enough, a quick search for "windows xp fisher price" has this Ars Technica article about exactly that topic (people hating Windows XP when it first came out): https://arstechnica.com/informa…

I must be the only person in the world who really loved that theme. It always cheered me up. The default wallpaper not so much, but I never let the default one anyway.

The coloured "rubber" gadgets were very nice. Those haters surely dislike Comic Sans too!

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by dmfdmf »

causality0 wrote: post #10
slt2021 wrote: post #8

For the love of god just get off of thece ancient systems pls, or run the only in airgapped and isolated network segments with application whitelisting and manual data ingress/egress controls, and everything will be fine without these silly updates. Just bury the body already, let winxp rest in peace, please

Give me a new Windows that isn't dripping with contempt for the user.

All signs lead me to conclude that they want to make Window ?? as locked down as your phone, i.e. strickly a content consumption and user tracking device. Windows 11, which is garbage, is just an incremental step along the way to boil the frog.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by Grazester »

codegeek wrote: post #89
Animats wrote: post #34

I could see staying with Windows 7. That was the best version Microsoft ever made. Microsoft finally figured out how to make it stable, and it didn't have all the ad and cloud crap nailed in. You can run current Firefox, current Thunderbird, and current LibreOffice, which covers the basics. Most Windows software still works.

Windows XP wasn't bad either. Windows 98 was great as well for its time.

I cant remember Windows 98 offering anything over 95 OSR2.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by eyelidlessness »

Lammy wrote: post #105
eyelidlessness wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Win2K was the only version of Windows I ever ran as a daily driver. I had access to Macs from an early age (since System 7 and through all the processor architecture transitions, except I haven’t gotten an M-series yet), but sold my Mac and couldn’t afford a replacement for some time around the XP transition. My completely unqualified ranking… - 2k: excellent, top Windows - XP: fine, if you turn off all the UI change…

> - ME: lol why even did this exist To get Internet Explorer 5.5 deployed as widely as possible which was their strategy pre-DOJ: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_Application

Extra lulz. I understood ME to be a stopgap in the NT transition, where 2k was supposed to be the consumer/corporate merge but that was delayed til XP for reasons… I think drivers? But of course there was IE strategy.

Maybe I’m just softening because I haven’t had to deal with IE for so long, but I really do think it’s an incredible achievement that MS transitioned Windows with as little disruption as they did, with all sorts of good and bad incentives. It’s a wonder Windows even still works, much less keeping such a large majority of install base. Obviously it’s not my favorite software in the world, but I’m thoroughly impressed with what the devs have pulled off through a cartoonish timeline of priority shifts with unbelievable backcompat expectations.

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