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Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by userbinator »

bitwize wrote: post #32
mostlysimilar wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better to have at-install license key check than all of the hostile telemetry and ads in Windows 11.

Yeah, but that shit was a big deal back then. We were used to having software work for us and not anyone else, so monetizing your eyeballs or attempting to profile you and enforce copyright through the internet was weird and creepy. People lost their shit when they found out Bonzi Buddy and Comet Cursor had spyware. Today's Bonzi Buddy/Comet Cursor is called... well, Windows 11, and no one seems to care.

They're slowly stuffing that shit into updates of Windows 10 too.

and no one seems to care.

I suspect that's largely because of learned helplessness and the bias that search engines and the like seem to have developed. Instead of piles of critical articles about all the worst parts, we get SEO'd sites parroting the same unbearably positive marketing copy about how much "better" Win11 is.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by userbinator »

causality0 wrote: post #10
slt2021 wrote: post #8

For the love of god just get off of thece ancient systems pls, or run the only in airgapped and isolated network segments with application whitelisting and manual data ingress/egress controls, and everything will be fine without these silly updates. Just bury the body already, let winxp rest in peace, please

Give me a new Windows that isn't dripping with contempt for the user.

1990s Microsoft: "Where do you want to go today?"

2020s Microsoft: "Where do we want you to go today?"

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by wnevets »

Koshkin wrote: post #55
wnevets wrote: post #50

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> For the love of god just get off of thece ancient systems pls, Is anyone actually writing exploits for these ancient systems? I wouldn't be surprised if it is actually safer from non-targeted attacks.

Why, they all have been written already, long ago.

Wouldn't they also have been patched long ago?

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by franga2000 »

causality0 wrote: post #21
danogentili wrote: post #12

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What about switching to Linux? :) If you're running legacy OSes, you're most definitely not playing recent games with DRM or doing anything that can't be done on a recent Linux system.

Un-fucking Windows 10 is still easier than Linux where the answers to half of my problems are "You fool, if you wanted to use more than two mouse buttons you should have used Slippery Weasel 7. Trash your install and start over with a better distro. By the way Slippery Weasel 7 doesn't support changing your screen brightness."

It's really easy to un-fuck windows when it dies in one of the few common ways, but in most other cases no amount of expertise can help you. Whereas with Linux, with enough knowledge and experience, you can fix pretty much anything, but you need a decent amount of it even for basic fixes.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by zamadatix »

i386 wrote: post #56
Lammy wrote: post #11

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The site does agree with you in the Disclaimer at the bottom of the page: “The existence of this site shouldn’t be taken as an endorsement to continue using unsupported OSes. You should stick to a supported OS such as Windows 10 or 11 (or, try Linux?!). However, this service exists anyway in recognition that using these OSes is sometimes necessary to run legacy hardware/software, or just interesting to play around wi…

Yeah until some IT moron running a hospital installs this on their aging fleet for budgetary concerns.

I mean that poor IT guy knows it’s shit either way, at least they are trying to do something other than throw their hands in the air and give up completely.

In all honesty though they’ll probably have some old version of WSUS still running on prem anyways. Well that and a large collection of devices they aren’t allowed to update or secure at all.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by Blackthorn »

slt2021 wrote: post #8

For the love of god just get off of thece ancient systems pls, or run the only in airgapped and isolated network segments with application whitelisting and manual data ingress/egress controls, and everything will be fine without these silly updates. Just bury the body already, let winxp rest in peace, please

Not running it anymore but these systems like 7 are great. In XP or 7, when you built a computer, you installed the OS direct from Microsoft to avoid all that shovelware that OEMs loved to put on the systems. Now the shovelware comes right from Microsoft as part of the OS, isn't that lovely.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by opan »

ShockedUnicorn wrote: post #59
wereallterrrist wrote: post #48

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Damn near pure FUD with any remotely, remotely mainstream laptop. The Linux ecosystem is so wildly more consistent and predictable than Win10. I mean, my laptop doesn't overheat daily in my bag when its booted to Linux, but yeah, Windows is so easy. /s

I'm unsure what you mean with mainstream laptop, but with my Asus zenbook I had these problems: * Sleeping doesn't work, hibernate sometimes work * Keyboard buttons for screen brightness doesn't work * Ambient light sensor doesn't work * Vsync doesn't work * Processor always highly clocked, draining battery I was able to fix some of the issues in Ubuntu by compiling kernel addons of some sort. When I switched to Arch…

Have you tried Wayland to fix the tearing?

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by RobotToaster »

slt2021 wrote: post #8

For the love of god just get off of thece ancient systems pls, or run the only in airgapped and isolated network segments with application whitelisting and manual data ingress/egress controls, and everything will be fine without these silly updates. Just bury the body already, let winxp rest in peace, please

Doesn't MS still offer paid updates for win7?

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by EvanAnderson »

nix23 wrote: post #45
Koshkin wrote: post #41

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> That was the best version Microsoft ever made No. 7 was a rollback on Vista. The best one which was not a step back but rather a step forward was Windows 2000. (Some even swear by NT4, which I feel also has some merit.)

I think WindowsServer2003R2 was the best OS Microsoft ever made, then XP >SP2 and Windows2000, then Win7.

I used Server 2003 R2 as a daily driver on a laptop for a couple of years pre-Windows 7. It was very nice. Most Windows XP software would work fine.

Re: Legacy Update: Fix Windows Update on Windows XP, Vista, Server 2008, 2003, 2000

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Post by mrighele »

ahartmetz wrote: post #46
Koshkin wrote: post #41

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> That was the best version Microsoft ever made No. 7 was a rollback on Vista. The best one which was not a step back but rather a step forward was Windows 2000. (Some even swear by NT4, which I feel also has some merit.)

Yes, 2000 was by far my favorite Windows. Very solid, very clean style. I have a burning hatred for the visual design of Windows 7 (and Vista to a lesser degree) - it may have been technically great, but the design felt appropriate for a toothpaste, not for an operating system. I could only stand XP with the 2000 style as well. What the hell were they thinking?

I consider Windows 2000 the top that Microsoft reached with regard to style (both look and feel).

But you can choose "Windows Classic" as a style in Windows 7 and it will not to be too different, although some thing may be annoying.

For example, Windows 2000 was more keyboard-friendly. In Explorer, you edit the path on the top input, then you tab and you move between files. Since Windows XP that has been increasing, and its 5 tabs in Windows 7. Pratically unusable

The control panel is not yet fucked up like in Windows 8+ but still you can guess the year in which the entry was written.

On the other side, the start menu is better because you have a search field that works well (no web stupid web searches there).

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