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The Twitter Files, Part Six

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Re: The Twitter Files, Part Six

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I used to hear that it wasn't censorship when it was just a company censoring voices. That they didn't have any obligations to broadcast anyones speech. Well... that didn't age well.

I used to hear talk of free speech absolutism, and not banning jet tracking accounts even though they were a safety risk.

They aren't a safety risk though.

Re: The Twitter Files, Part Six

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3. Twitter’s contact with the FBI was constant and pervasive, as if it were a subsidiary. 4. Between January 2020 and November 2022, there were over 150 emails between the FBI and former Twitter Trust and Safety chief Yoel Roth. How is this constant? This is just 1 request every 7 days . I figured it would be more. Also, it's called the FBI. Their job is to investigate federal matters, which includes content on socia…

The problem was that it was entirely biased to one side. They were actively looking to sway an election. Some were fairly innocuous small accounts. And they couldn't make exceptions for jokes or satire.

Re: The Twitter Files, Part Six

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Aside from people in tech and the MAGA crowd, does anyone actually care about the "Twitter Files" stuff?

You may not mind it because you're side won. But that is incredibly short-sided. What if the FBI decides to sway an election to a candidate you don't support sometime in the future? See where this is going?

Re: The Twitter Files, Part Six

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"Federal intelligence and law enforcement reach into Twitter included the Department of Homeland Security, which partnered with security contractors and think tanks to pressure Twitter to moderate content." Is this a violation of the 1st Amendment or a way to skirt around it?

The problem was that it was entirely one way. This was not about dangerous misinformation. Many of the accounts they wanted suppressed were low-follower accounts making jokes. A ton of FBI agents paid to sway an election. Even if you are comfortable with the outcome of the election, what about future elections when they decide to back a candidate you do not support?

Re: The Twitter Files, Part Six

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I used to hear talk of free speech absolutism, and not banning jet tracking accounts even though they were a safety risk.

They aren't a safety risk though.

He previously said the safety risk was ok as banning it would violate free speech.

And Musk has been fine with accounts that use their freedom of speech even if they resulted is safety risks. For example @libsoftiktok is an account Musk unbanned, and has likes their tweets, who post misleading information resulting in direct threats against people and organisations (e.g. children's hospitals).

For example they just recently tweeted a video* that was purposefully edited in a way to make it seem someone was pro-pedophilia, when they weren't.

*https://twitter.com/RobertLouisr/status/1603422570665201664?...

Re: The Twitter Files, Part Six

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post #25
post #4

Aside from people in tech and the MAGA crowd, does anyone actually care about the "Twitter Files" stuff?

You may not mind it because you're side won. But that is incredibly short-sided. What if the FBI decides to sway an election to a candidate you don't support sometime in the future? See where this is going?

Yeah, like what if one of the parties had their emails hacked by a foreign state, and then a week or so before the election, against their own policy, the FBI issued a press release about how they were urgently reopening an investigation not into the hack but into possible wrongdoing by the hacked candidate? And then later acknowledged there was no wrongdoing?

You're right; I really hate to think about what the fallout would be if the FBI inappropriately swayed an election.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_email_controve...

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