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Bestselling books have been getting shorter

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Re: Bestselling books have been getting shorter

#21
Is shorter worse? I recently checked out "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire", one of the volumes on the list in my little black book from back before Kiva Han became a Chase Manhattan branch, and was surprised how thin it is.

(I also begrudgingly reread Lolita and Animal Farm, both of which aren't exactly War and Peace in terms of page count... believe it or not, you can use "GRE words" outside the GRE when writing literature.)

Maybe folks should worry about whether their book will be read for generations instead of being payola'd into some airport lobby.

Re: Bestselling books have been getting shorter

#22
post #9

It is true that literary agents are less likely to take on a book that's "difficult" in any way, and "too long" is one of those ways. As slimy as they are, they do have a sense of what publishers want, who in turn have a sense of what readers want. And lots of people do not want to read books anymore, broadly speaking. There are too many other entertainment options.

There are a select few agents who specialize in literary fiction. If you start a naive search of literary agents, you will find that their stated interests zero in on books that are of the political moment. The majority of agents are looking for a book, preferably young adult fiction, that focuses on a protected class, of which the author should also be a member. This is not a complaint, but the evident regression to the mean, which is really no more than an acknowledgment of market forces, is available at a glance. Books are no longer commodities whose primary purpose is to be read. Rather, they are meant to capture an upswing of interest in a particular topic, and then become more widely celebrated than widely considered.

The fact is that most works of literary fiction written today are simply not up to snuff. Although there are writers devoted to their vocation, they lack a context in which to work. Literary agents cannot contribute to the process of writing. A kind of grassroots appreciation of the benefits intrinsic to reading and writing literature needs to take place, in my opinion, if we are to produce any great works of literature.

Re: Bestselling books have been getting shorter

#23
I would love to see this broken out by fiction/non-fiction. I read mainly fiction and some stories just take longer to tell than others so I don't really take page count into consideration.

When I do read non-fiction I almost always think that the book could be improved by heavily editing down the second half.

Re: Bestselling books have been getting shorter

#24

I would love to see this broken out by fiction/non-fiction. I read mainly fiction and some stories just take longer to tell than others so I don't really take page count into consideration. When I do read non-fiction I almost always think that the book could be improved by heavily editing down the second half.

I recall someone saying “Most non-fiction books really just have a 15 minute message.”

At least with fiction there can be some beauty in the extension.

Re: Bestselling books have been getting shorter

#25
I'm so weary of this sort of 'society is in decline' clickbait articles. Let's take some minimal amount of data, analyze it by some absurd criteria, and then present as some stunning insight.

There's so much wrong with this article that its hard to know where to start. The fuzziness of 'page count'. The absence of any consideration of digital readers and whether they even know the page count when starting a book.

Who ever said longer books are better than shorter books and how could they possibly justify that?

There's also trends that could easily account for this. Trilogies everywhere and one could argue that reading a trilogy is reading 1 large book vs 3 small books. Are graphic novels included?

It's all so silly

Re: Bestselling books have been getting shorter

#27
post #9

It is true that literary agents are less likely to take on a book that's "difficult" in any way, and "too long" is one of those ways. As slimy as they are, they do have a sense of what publishers want, who in turn have a sense of what readers want. And lots of people do not want to read books anymore, broadly speaking. There are too many other entertainment options.

There are a select few agents who specialize in literary fiction. If you start a naive search of literary agents, you will find that their stated interests zero in on books that are of the political moment. The majority of agents are looking for a book, preferably young adult fiction, that focuses on a protected class, of which the author should also be a member. This is not a complaint, but the evident regression to…

They have little codes that designate the genres they're interested in, like MG (middle grade) and YA (young adult). And of course, LBTQ etc.

> Books are no longer commodities whose primary purpose is to be read. Rather, they are meant to capture an upswing of interest in a particular topic, and then become more widely celebrated than widely considered.

Well said. A book to display on your coffee table, not necessarily to read.

Re: Bestselling books have been getting shorter

#29

I'm so weary of this sort of 'society is in decline' clickbait articles. Let's take some minimal amount of data, analyze it by some absurd criteria, and then present as some stunning insight. There's so much wrong with this article that its hard to know where to start. The fuzziness of 'page count'. The absence of any consideration of digital readers and whether they even know the page count when starting a book. Who…

No one said longer books are better? Good writing is often concise. And the article doesn’t at all conclude “society is in decline”. You seem to be the only one making these leaps and drawing these conclusions.

Re: Bestselling books have been getting shorter

#30

Is shorter worse? I recently checked out "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire", one of the volumes on the list in my little black book from back before Kiva Han became a Chase Manhattan branch, and was surprised how thin it is. (I also begrudgingly reread Lolita and Animal Farm, both of which aren't exactly War and Peace in terms of page count... believe it or not, you can use "GRE words" outside the GRE when writi…

Must be a heavily abridged version. My full edition of RaFotRE is over 2000 pages in 3 volumes.
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