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Post by odo1242 »

criddell wrote: post #403
jorvi wrote: post #386

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By your logic Sublime is an even higher feat of engineering since it made even better engineering decisions. Ultimately they’re both very fancy text editors, not ‘the greatest feat of modern software engineering’. I’d happily switch from Sublime to VScode or EMacs or any of the other umpteen code editors. I’d shudder to have to go back from Git to SVN. Even Mercurial seems milquetoast in comparison. Similarly, what a…

> I’d shudder to have to go back from Git to SVN. What are some of the Git features that make a big difference to you? I use them on different projects and I end up using them both in the same very basic way (check out code, make changes, check code in).

All git operations are several times faster than their SVN counterparts, and git is more storage efficient as well. This becomes especially relevant for larger repositories.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by craigkilgo »

p-e-w wrote: post #75
esprehn wrote: post #32

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Atom predated the LSP and leaned heavily into customizations with all the plugins running inside the UI thread (more like a traditional web page and 3p scripts). At the time they viewed the extreme customization support as a feature, and there was a thriving ecosystem of folks making plugins. That architecture has a major flaw though. A default install was fast, but a real configuration with all the plugins ended up…

VSCode is one of the greatest pieces of engineering of our time. It's really only when you compare it with Atom that you realize how great it is. Atom was built by incredibly smart people, who had full control over the platform and several years of head start, and they were still out-engineered by the VSCode team at every turn. VSCode did almost everything right: The choice of TypeScript as the base language (with wh…

Is TypeScript responsible for how performant VSCode is relative to other Electron apps? I always wondered how they figured it out and all other Electron apps struggle.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by gauddasa »

dang wrote: post #102

Related: Atom editor is not dead, but is now Pulsar (viva OSS) - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=33465854 - Nov 2022 (9 comments) To Favor Microsoft VS Code, Microsoft's GitHub Is Killing GitHub's Atom Editor - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31717196 - June 2022 (19 comments) Ask HN: Why did Atom Text Editor failed? - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30733674 - March 2022 (8 comments) Atom: Editor wind…

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Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by ryukoposting »

throwawayffffas wrote: post #370
_cenw wrote: post #297

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I'd credit Sublime Text with that.

I second that, Sublime raised the bar and set the new standard, the only advantage VScode now has over sublime is it's open source license.

... and the fact that I don't have to pay for it. Never understood why anyone would spend money on a text editor.

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by thanatropism »

Hendrikto wrote: post #360
gizzlon wrote: post #242

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Both Sublime Text and Merge are great and well worth the price for me :)

I do not really see the point of Sublime Merge. Tried it a few times, but it just seems unnecessary. Is it just for people who want to avoid the CLI?

Line-by-line commits in Sublime Merge are much easier to do. Also the timeline view if you're pressured into "gitflow" and such things.

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Post by adwn »

ben-schaaf wrote: post #410
adwn wrote: post #390

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The first and last time I tried Sublime Text, it turned out to be impossible to properly have a file open in two editors (or tabs or whatever Sublime's term is): any changes made in one editor were only synchronized to the other editor upon saving the file. I really tried to like Sublime, but the lack of such a basic feature was a total no-go. That was several years ago, has the situation changed?

Multiple views into a single file have been supported for a long time; I believe as far back as ST2. Currently it's easily accessible by right-clicking on a tab and selecting "Split View".

Yes, but are modifications in one view immediately reflected in the other view, without having to save the file?

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by ipqk »

capableweb wrote: post #359
Emigre_ wrote: post #258

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Sublime Text is a fantastic editor. In my opinion it deserves more popularity.

Sublime Text definitely had it's moment in the spotlight, at one point (around 2012-2014) it was basically the only editor I saw people using, besides emacs/vim which has its diehard fans (including myself). Most of those people are using Visual Studio Code today instead, although in comparison, VS Code is very bloated and slow. For fun and giggles, here is a comparison of the Google popularity between Sublime Text,…

And here I am still using TextMate...

(95% of my coding is in Xcode, the rest gets funneled through TextMate).

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Post by hnfong »

brozaman wrote: post #300
constantcrying wrote: post #234

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>With VSCode, you type the name of any programming language in the extension search, click "Install", and you have a world-class development environment Very minor feature. It is not usefull unless you are constantly hunting for new languages. >Not to mention that VSCode has countless other productivity boosters built in which would require plugin hunting or fiddling with configuration files for Vim and Emacs. This i…

>>With VSCode, you type the name of any programming language in the extension search, click "Install", and you have a world-class development environment > Very minor feature. It is not usefull unless you are constantly hunting for new languages. The big advantage isn't just installing but keeping them up to date without any actual effort. I used to know vimscript, used to understand how the vim package managers I us…

I do agree the Vim plugin ecosystem (and vimscript) sort of sucks. That said, I've been using Vim for 20+ years and generally only mess with my config and plugins once every 2-3 years at most. Since the thing is just supposed to edit text, why would I feel compelled to update them, much less try to figure out what language they're written in?

Re: Atom was archived today

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Post by gnramires »

locofocos wrote: post #16

I'm a happy user of Atom as my daily driver for basic note taking and scratch pads. Even though it's being sunset, I look forward to using it for years to come. Perhaps it will have a good fork one day, but honestly it works great as-is. Sometimes software reaches a point where it just works, and you appreciate not having a team that wants to change everything.

If you're on Linux, I recommend Geany as an alternative (also has autosave, etc.). Also my favorite IDE at the moment.
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