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Re: A Linux Evening

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Post by zokier »

jeromenerf wrote: post #19

Kernel parameters are usually documented in the kernel-parameters.txt file in the source. See https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/... : hpbussize=nn The minimum amount of additional bus numbers reserved for buses below a hotplug bridge. Default is 1. The way to get from the error "No bus number available for hot-added bridge" at https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/pci/pr... t…

That doc string raises so many questions. First, it says minimum which to me implies that in some cases larger value is used, but no clue when. Secondly, why is the default 1 and what is the allowed range of values? Being 1 implies to me that there is some cost associated with the reservations, otherwise the default would be much higher? Is the 0x33 from the article completely random, would 2 worked just as well? What are the implications of using high value here?

Re: A Linux Evening

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Post by SpacePortKnight »

Occasional issues like these is why I continue to run Windows even though Microsoft has been pulling off all sorts of shenanigans with telemetry, broken file manager / start menu, ads etc.

I really want to move to Linux but unless my laptop manufacturer provides support, its never going to happen. I don't want to think my OS when buying a hardware accessary or a software product.

A laptop's a tool and Windows still provides the most support.

Re: A Linux Evening

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Post by autophagian »

For takeaway 2, I've found using NixOS lately to be good at keeping myself disciplined about documenting the odd little hacks I've added to fix an issue. Like in this case, I'd have to add something to my boot.loader.grub.extraConfig setting, comment it and document it with a hopefully-useful commit message so that if I encounter something similar in future, I can at least look at those bits of documentation and hopefully connect the two.

Re: A Linux Evening

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Post by mentos »

_justinfunk wrote: post #44

I used to hear "Linux is only free if you don't value your time." - this article seems to validate that this is still the case. Am I getting the wrong impression?

“You get what you pay for.” has always been my reaction to Linux issues.

Re: A Linux Evening

#46

Post by muststopmyths »

emsy wrote: post #7
tuukkah wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is your comment related to the article? The only connection I can see is bad quality of some hardware and drivers.

It’s a reappearing issue with Linux that you run into problems other operating systems don’t have to this degree. Which is sad, because seeing the direction Windows 11 is heading towards, I’d like for Linux to achieve widespread adoption.

Oh don’t worry as a daily user of windows 11 I can assure you that Microsoft is doubling down on random mystifying problems, paired with no useful forum for users to collectively figure things out.

Re: A Linux Evening

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Post by ssimono »

autophagian wrote: post #43

For takeaway 2, I've found using NixOS lately to be good at keeping myself disciplined about documenting the odd little hacks I've added to fix an issue. Like in this case, I'd have to add something to my boot.loader.grub.extraConfig setting, comment it and document it with a hopefully-useful commit message so that if I encounter something similar in future, I can at least look at those bits of documentation and hope…

+1 on this. I use to consider those Linux evenings as a waste of time. But with every bit of NixOS tracked within git with some history and context, I now think of it like an investment for the next 50 years, which has way more chances to pay back

Re: A Linux Evening

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Post by cobertos »

> After all, if I elect to use Linux, a niche market by all means, shouldn't I be ready for these kinds of quests?

Yes and no. I think if our only tools are are Google (well, now Kagi for me), Stack overflow et al., and the sites that hold quality content quick to the point, you'll be spending a lot of time on the info finding and not the fixing.

I think it requires a a lot of information organization tools to continue to keep up with it. Or sink more time into info finding. Or just memorize everything if you have a brain for that

Re: A Linux Evening

#49

Post by alkonaut »

jeromenerf wrote: post #19

Kernel parameters are usually documented in the kernel-parameters.txt file in the source. See https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/Documentation/... : hpbussize=nn The minimum amount of additional bus numbers reserved for buses below a hotplug bridge. Default is 1. The way to get from the error "No bus number available for hot-added bridge" at https://github.com/torvalds/linux/blob/master/drivers/pci/pr... t…

What's the approach used by OSes that "just work" for things like this? Is this due to the more monolithic kernel of Linux making more things required to be known up front than e.g. in Windows?

Re: A Linux Evening

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Post by qup »

SpacePortKnight wrote: post #42

Occasional issues like these is why I continue to run Windows even though Microsoft has been pulling off all sorts of shenanigans with telemetry, broken file manager / start menu, ads etc. I really want to move to Linux but unless my laptop manufacturer provides support, its never going to happen. I don't want to think my OS when buying a hardware accessary or a software product. A laptop's a tool and Windows still p…

What kind of windows support do you use?
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