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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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This exactly how a dictator behaves - imagined threats from everywhere ordering his minions "lop of their heads". I wonder how the VC folks and banks who helped fund the takeover feels about the billions they just blew away - twitter is going to be slowly dying as the crazies in the asylum takes over. Long live the King.

Twitter Spaces is now gone as well after an Elon meltdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znFNKlzuTSc

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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post #819

Musk joined a Twitter Spaces discussion about the bans and was mocked after he left [1]. Notably, suspended accounts were on stage with Elon during the discussion [2]. The space was ended abruptly 30 minutes later and it appears it was killed on Twitter’s side given that the usual metadata does not match what a closed Space has. This Space was being recorded and the replay is not available [3]. Musk now claims that t…

The buyers of Tesla are, by and large, rich liberals who care about the climate. Musk proceeds to position himself as a QAnon hack. Owning a Tesla was a source of pride and is now a mark of shame and mockery. The only people who actually do care about Twitter are journalists. Musk proceeds to ban some prominent ones from Twitter, for utterly frivolous reasons, which makes them realize that 1/ they're not immune to th…

Tesla = Q mobile :).

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

#824
post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Elon's slide into max doucheness is a real shame. I used to tell my kids he was one of the most admirable people around for jump starting the EV industry (yes, I know he didn't do it all). Then came the pedo guy comments. I cut him slack, he must be tired/strung out, he'll apologise. He never did. Now he's become like a meme of himself, or perhaps just himself as he always was but now right out there, and it's not go…

The EV industry is a distraction to prevent us from doing what is needed to save the environment: ie. minimise the use of cars. It (much like the hyperloop scam it necessitated) is simply an attack on car-free living and public transport.

It's not an "attack". You can have good public transport and cars live in harmony if you design cities properly. Hell, in fact it synergises well, the more people opt in for public transport the less cars on the roads there are.

It's just abhorrent design of cities, that is the problem, especially in US.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

What is everyone up in arms for? This is a private company, so he can do whatever he wants. That is what everyone has been saying for years. I mean, it turns out they were wrong and Twitter was actually colluding with government agencies to bypass the first amendment. But censorship and targeted suspensions were defended tooth and nail by internet commenters. Is this a problem now only because people you like are tar…

Twitter is allowed to be run by jerks who ban people for any reason they want.

The problem is that people like Musk have spent ages arguing that banning fascists is bad because free speech absolutism is an important value. It turns out that free speech absolutism was never actually a value they cared about - the only thing that matters is that their guy is the one choosing the bans. If people like Musk had instead argued that platforming fascists is actually good this whole time then the discussion today would be different, but because they didn't want to publicly support fascists they had to fall back on the free speech absolutism argument, which has shattered into a million pieces.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Musk joined a Twitter Spaces discussion about the bans and was mocked after he left [1]. Notably, suspended accounts were on stage with Elon during the discussion [2]. The space was ended abruptly 30 minutes later and it appears it was killed on Twitter’s side given that the usual metadata does not match what a closed Space has. This Space was being recorded and the replay is not available [3]. Musk now claims that t…

I think calling anyone defending Musk at any level a “cheerleader” isn’t a helpful framing of the debate. It’s important not to make any issue an “I align with X so you’re against me” conflict. Musk has achieved great, incredible things. That’s just indisputable fact. Musk is also behaving erratically, inconsistently, and seemingly also unethically over Twitter. And has done so in the past, eg in the dispute with the…

There are people on all sides openly lying to make a point and when those lies are pointed out you are either insulted or blocked. It's really a strange world.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Why did Elon enter this shit storm? He’s going to be spending all day every day arguing about controversies like this when he could have been building out much more interesting and significant companies, or simply enjoying his money.

This is my main concern. Twitter seems like such a waste of time. Either Elon’s judgement is way off, or there’s a bigger picture he can see. But in the short term at least, this circus just seems like a waste of time.

It’s also something that he can never really win. There will always be half the world that disagrees with everything he does.

If I was a multi billionaire it’s certainly not how I would want to be spending my days.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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post #600

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's also worth noting that revealing real names and workplaces of anonymous accounts is still allowed. The doxxing that is banned is a specific class of doxxing that isn't often considered to be doxxing.

This. Since when is current location of a well known person doxxing? AFAICT, Elon made that up to suit himself.

I don't have much nice to say about the UK royals, but they put up with infinitely worse.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

#829

Musk joined a Twitter Spaces discussion about the bans and was mocked after he left [1]. Notably, suspended accounts were on stage with Elon during the discussion [2]. The space was ended abruptly 30 minutes later and it appears it was killed on Twitter’s side given that the usual metadata does not match what a closed Space has. This Space was being recorded and the replay is not available [3]. Musk now claims that t…

Here is a link to the recording:

https://wandering.shop/@soheb/109522542818200411

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

#830

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

Weirdly I'm almost on the other side of the whole doxxing issue. We've established now that Elon really doesn't like it when people dox him, and all his right-leaning supporters are defending that. Well, that's a precedent now for when minorities and vulnerable people who aren't billionaires are doxxed by right wing hate groups (e.g. Kiwifarms). And radical free speech just got abruptly limited when it got personal.…

But the principle won't be applied equally. No property of the universe will swoop in and force Musk to take action when trans people are threatened. It is an error to assume that systems that protect the rich and powerful will be used to protect the poor and oppressed.
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