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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by eggy »

int_19h wrote: post #187
eggy wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, just like when pre-Musk Twitter banned NY Post/journalists over a true story about Hunter Biden's laptop. I don't see how an anti-doxxing rule banning people tracking Elon Musk's whereabouts is worse.

Pre-Musk Twitter didn't specifically try to present itself as a bastion of free speech. On top of that, in case of this particular account, Musk specifically said that it would be allowed on the platform per his understanding of free speech.

Really? Jack Dorsey 2015 said it and many times after [1].

Twitter only censored the oldest continually published newspaper in America during an election about the Hunter Biden laptop.

  [1]  https://twitter.com/jack/status/651003891153108997

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by randomsearch »

mattmanser wrote: post #805
randomsearch wrote: post #801

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think calling anyone defending Musk at any level a “cheerleader” isn’t a helpful framing of the debate. It’s important not to make any issue an “I align with X so you’re against me” conflict. Musk has achieved great, incredible things. That’s just indisputable fact. Musk is also behaving erratically, inconsistently, and seemingly also unethically over Twitter. And has done so in the past, eg in the dispute with the…

People at Tesla and SpaceX have achieved great things, not Musk. All he's demonstrating is that CEO pay and comp should never have got as high as it has and taxes on rich people needs to go way higher, they are just going to waste it any way.

> People at Tesla and SpaceX have achieved great things, not Musk

You can’t be serious. So Musk can’t take any credit for what those companies have achieved?

By that logic, he should also be blameless for any problems at Twitter.

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Post by randomsearch »

YokoSix wrote: post #809
randomsearch wrote: post #801

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think calling anyone defending Musk at any level a “cheerleader” isn’t a helpful framing of the debate. It’s important not to make any issue an “I align with X so you’re against me” conflict. Musk has achieved great, incredible things. That’s just indisputable fact. Musk is also behaving erratically, inconsistently, and seemingly also unethically over Twitter. And has done so in the past, eg in the dispute with the…

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For the record, I do not have a Tesla, a reusable rocket, or a flamethrower.

I just think people do good and bad things and I try not to pick sides.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by chrisbaker98 »

paradox242 wrote: post #112

If only we could get some transparency about the decisions to censor users on Twitter. It could be released as a set of files, a little at a time, to a prominent syncoph- I mean independent journalist. That way we can really dominate the news cycle for a week or so and get some attention on this thing. The only problem is what to call it. Twitter Periodic Information Bulletin? No doubt accurate, but a little on the n…

That sounds like the kind of thing that would be worth discussing on HN! Someone should submit it here if it happens, I can't imagine this site would bury it.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by randomsearch »

benjaminwootton wrote: post #813

Why did Elon enter this shit storm? He’s going to be spending all day every day arguing about controversies like this when he could have been building out much more interesting and significant companies, or simply enjoying his money.

This is my main concern. Twitter seems like such a waste of time. Either Elon’s judgement is way off, or there’s a bigger picture he can see.

But in the short term at least, this circus just seems like a waste of time.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by eggy »

richbell wrote: post #164
eggy wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Oh, just like when pre-Musk Twitter banned NY Post/journalists over a true story about Hunter Biden's laptop. I don't see how an anti-doxxing rule banning people tracking Elon Musk's whereabouts is worse.

> Oh, just like when pre-Musk Twitter banned NY Post/journalists over a true story about Hunter Biden's laptop. I don't see how an anti-doxxing rule banning people tracking Elon Musk's whereabouts is worse. Calling it "Hunter Biden's laptop" ignores the fact that it was hacked information provided by a foreign adversary to sow division and influence an election. That is not comparable to sharing publicly available in…

The computer store owner in the USA is not a foreign adversary. The content is real and criminal. Ties to foreign adversary China and Russia too.

Be honest, and ask yourself if that had been Trump's son's laptop would Twitter, The Washington Post, and the others have done the same? I don't think so.

If I collate publicy available information and publish it continuously on any person, you are OK with that? If it happens to you?

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by mstipetic »

randomsearch wrote: post #801
infrawhispers wrote: post #780

Musk joined a Twitter Spaces discussion about the bans and was mocked after he left [1]. Notably, suspended accounts were on stage with Elon during the discussion [2]. The space was ended abruptly 30 minutes later and it appears it was killed on Twitter’s side given that the usual metadata does not match what a closed Space has. This Space was being recorded and the replay is not available [3]. Musk now claims that t…

I think calling anyone defending Musk at any level a “cheerleader” isn’t a helpful framing of the debate. It’s important not to make any issue an “I align with X so you’re against me” conflict. Musk has achieved great, incredible things. That’s just indisputable fact. Musk is also behaving erratically, inconsistently, and seemingly also unethically over Twitter. And has done so in the past, eg in the dispute with the…

So every time we criticize we should start with Elon has made great things, but…

Please

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by bambax »

infrawhispers wrote: post #780

Musk joined a Twitter Spaces discussion about the bans and was mocked after he left [1]. Notably, suspended accounts were on stage with Elon during the discussion [2]. The space was ended abruptly 30 minutes later and it appears it was killed on Twitter’s side given that the usual metadata does not match what a closed Space has. This Space was being recorded and the replay is not available [3]. Musk now claims that t…

The buyers of Tesla are, by and large, rich liberals who care about the climate. Musk proceeds to position himself as a QAnon hack. Owning a Tesla was a source of pride and is now a mark of shame and mockery.

The only people who actually do care about Twitter are journalists. Musk proceeds to ban some prominent ones from Twitter, for utterly frivolous reasons, which makes them realize that 1/ they're not immune to this and 2/ one of their main work tool is brittle, and will make them actively search for another, if they weren't already.

This behavior is strange. Either Musk is engaging in self-harm, for some reason, or he's testing how much he can get away with.

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