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Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by despera »

Now that the location of the supposed "attack by stalker" has been geolocated by someone affiliated to Bellingcat[1] and obviously that (if ever happened) had nothing to do with services or bots that share aviation public data; can we move past the, arguably naively made, smokescreen and ask what this supposed to disorient us from?

I mean, the hypocrisy of using a jet plane instead of driving for 40 minutes in your "environmental green" car is a thing[2], but shouldn't be enough to randomly ban journalists.

[1]https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/1603454821700452365 [2]https://nypost.com/2022/08/22/elon-musk-planes-9-minute-35-m...

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by thinking4real »

dzader wrote: post #235
thinking4real wrote: post #160

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lol you picked the two things no one has said about Elon in 5 years. Basicallyeverything else he has said he would do he has failed at.

Only elon haters could have so much cognitive dissonance that they’ll see self driving cars and privatized space and say “yeah, well what else has he done?”

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by dillondoyle »

somedude895 wrote: post #675
c54 wrote: post #29

The wave of bans from the muskjet thing has been quite dramatic. It'll be interesting to see if the people who've been lauding musk for his supposedly pro free speech attitudes will reckon with what's been happening in actuality, or if they'll just accept this as "freedom for me but not for thee".

I knew he'd gone mad when he tweeted the Nancy Pelosi's husband conspiracy theory, but I was cautiously optimistic about Twitter up until ElonJet. Our company had already stopped spending on Twitter ads back when the first (possibly false) reports about increased hatespeech on Twitter came out, where I was one of a few protesting the decision, since it seemed like giving in to the hysteria and just trying not to beco…

The pedo thing didn't do it first?!

We don't do ads on twitter (politics). but no brand I know would want to be associated with the crazy-ness and tons of negative press.

Maybe good opportunity for click arbitragers and bottom barrel DTC though! low competition!

twitter is already showing me taboola level ads lmfao

I just can't with hn anymore. came back to specifically read this thread.

at least reddit is fun and has shit posting.

a significant chunk of active commenters on hn have gone off the deep end. a stew of insane, mean, and flat out wrong comments that have nothing to do with tech or cool nerd stuff. and everything to do with mean-spirited (often right wing) politics

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by jrmg »

eecc wrote: post #762
jrmg wrote: post #684

Musk on November 6th: My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15894149585086914...

Yes, thank you for reminding this forum, although I’m sure everyone here remembers or has already been made aware of this contradiction. Can you argument this point further or is it enough to imagine it with a trollface meme? Me personally, I argue that it was an exaggerated policy position to take. Under no circumstances should menacing, harassment, threats to personal safety be tolerated. It’s definitely a good thi…

I posted that deliberately without comment. I think it stands on its own as something people should reflect on when forming their opinion of the current situation, and thought that adding commentary would only muddy the perception of it.

I definitely did not intend it to be imagined with a troll face meme.

But since you asked my opinion, I’ll post it and people can judge it separately to the tweet.

I actually do agree with the idea that you shouldn’t post the whereabouts of people, even celebrities, if they’re not at public events - even if the information is technically public. That seems like a reasonable rule.

It’s the capriciousness and lack of concern for consistency - the seeming knee-jerk, ad hoc decision making - that is so frustrating. (And that many of the people defending it are the same people who perceived old Twitter to be capricious - but that’s another digression.)

I believe that rule-making (and enforcing) for something like Twitter requires more consistency, more deliberation, and more decorum than is currently being presented. I am afraid that this is not in Musk’s nature, and afraid about what the consequences of that will be.

I think the tweet I quoted, combined with knowledge of the current situation, is evidence for all of that.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by tomatocracy »

emodendroket wrote: post #638
barbariangrunge wrote: post #296

> Update: Musk just weighed in on the suspensions, characterizing them as intentional. “Same doxxing rules apply to “journalists” as to everyone else,” he tweeted in a reply. > It’s worth noting that the policy these accounts violated, a prohibition against sharing “live location information,” is only 24 hours old. It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it c…

> It seems like a good rule, but in this case the application of the rule seems less impersonal than it could be I don't think it seems like a good rule. Not only is the information public but I think it is not hard to dream up reasons why it would legitimately be in the public interest to report on the comings and goings of someone's private jet.

There is also a pretty easy solution to this if you want privacy: sell the private jet and use charters. This is why Bernard Arnauld sold his recently.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by alar44 »

Dudelander wrote: post #777
jrmg wrote: post #684

Musk on November 6th: My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15894149585086914...

I think the take away here is that any "digital town square" should not be a privately owned for-profit corporation.

The internet is the town square. Twitter is a shitty bar on the square.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by FranzFerdiNaN »

memish wrote: post #724
jrmg wrote: post #684

Musk on November 6th: My commitment to free speech extends even to not banning the account following my plane, even though that is a direct personal safety risk https://mobile.twitter.com/elonmusk/status/15894149585086914...

That was the case until a stalker got close to his toddler. That clearly shook him and changed his mind. Now the account will come back with a delay. He also changed his mind on free speech absolutism. He came around to the "freedom of speech is not freedom of reach" argument.

This is most likely another lie to get sympathy from the internet. Just like when he lied about holding his dying baby in his arms.

Re: Twitter applies 7-day suspension to half a dozen journalists

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Post by forgotpwd16 »

Waterluvian wrote: post #487
sergiotapia wrote: post #457

It's a 7 day suspension for doxxing, relax. https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1603591994244071424 Gives them time to think about it the next time they want to doxx someone's real location.

Posting publicly available information is wrong.

Big deja vu with the Kiwi Farms case few months ago.
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